Hello Here in Germany «Stargate SG-1» is late in it's 5th season officially. However, I managed to watch the first 7 episodes of 6th season so far using other means than the local tv station. To sum it up: I AM SAD! I'm upset for weeks now. You (the producers of the show) even made my cry. I don't like that.
First of all, I'm sad to see Michael Shanks leaving the show and with him my most favourite character. I'm stonedead certain, you will see a lot more of my fellow countrymen being cross with TPTB once «Meridian» has been aired in Germany for the first time in September 2002. Stargate is (or better: was) very popular over here - as it is in many areas of Western Europe actually. And why is that?
I somehow doubt it is because of the NID/conspiracy episodes or the war with the Goa'uld story arc and the ever increasing use of special effects. Nor was the introduction of gorgeous young ladies like the «Anise» character of any incentive to tune in. Don't get me wrong - my eyes were pleased but if I wanted to see pretty women I'd turn to other places; no offence intended. Just for the record: I'm an affluent young male and therefore well within the targeting group for the advertising industry.
In the beginning I watched the show because I liked the way how the producers/writers handled the transition from the movie to the new series. The Daniel Jackson character was the most likeable in the movie and soon I found myself enchanted with his portrayal by Michael Shanks. RDA was doing fine too but I must admit having had at first doubts about the Sam Carter character. However, these doubts vanished in season 3. Teal'c is a good and honest chap. I would trust him with my life but somehow he isn't going to make me watch the series.
Originally, I tuned in because I knew RDA and Don Davis (never heard or seen any of the other actors before). Furthermore I was intrigued by the show's approach. Using the Stargate to seek out new life and new civilisations in present day circumstances was an idea I was genuinely interested in. In Star Trek, Jean-Luc Picard was my favourite before he changed important parts of his personality with his appearance on the big screen.
I didn't mind, Stargate was US-centered despite its meaning for the whole planet although I wished TPTB would recognize one day the tens of millions of viewers in Europe. There was a charming and educated fellow in the show who spoke his mind when ethics, moral issues and sometimes even basic human rights were in danger of being sacrified for no convincing reason by the military or political leaders respectively.
With Daniel Jackson I could easily identify myself. Over time, when the exploration issue became less and less important I've drawn joy from the writers efforts to develop the four main characters. In over 100 episodes there is a good chance for writers to do so. And they did. SG-1 managed to become part of the family. Of all the possible interactions between the main characters I was most intrigued by the Jack/Daniel bantering.
For me there was nothing improper the way the writers handled the issue. On the contrary, the more militaristic and showmanshiplike the series became after «Small Victories», the more I appreciated the humour shown in the relationships between Jack and his teammates. That is what kept me watching. With Daniel Jackson gone the show has lost it's appeal to me.
When I first learned Mr Shanks was leaving the show I couldn't believe myself I was reacting so emotionally. I tried to calm myself down with the notion that most probably the actor has nothing in common with the character he is portraying. I still think that is utterly true. However, Michael Shanks triggered something and it isn't only because of his good looks. His acting helped a lot to get me growing fond of Daniel Jackson, in fact watching every scene with him in a state of high excitement. That doesn't happen very often with other actors. Other good looking hunks (e.g. Enterprises Ensign Mayweather or Stargates Jonas Quinn for that matter) stand no chance of achieving the same effect so it must be something else.
Perhaps it is the actor after all. I've read quite a number of reports concerning Michael Shanks appearances at conventions in Europe earlier this year. He seems a nice person.
I also read interviews with him as well as with TPTB. My conclusion is that I would probably have done the same as Michael Shanks. Leaving the show was the right thing to do for him. I wish him every luck in the world for his future career.
I would be most happy should he get a leading role in another successful tv series that will make its way to European small screens. Independend Canadian TV-films are not likely to fulfill this wish.
BTW, does anyone know how to contact Michael Shanks or his agent via mail?
Cheerio and Lots of Love
Tristan
PS: I hope it wasn't a ghastly thing to read through this letter. Imagine I would have written it in German. ;))
Tristan Hoffmann <t-ho@bigfoot.com>
Duesseldorf, Germany - Friday, August 16, 2002, 11:07 PM
You know, it is somthing до такой степени хамское, что даже слов нет, чтобы объяснить этим сукам драным кто они есть на самом деле!!!!!!!!!!!
Thouse, who knows russian will understand me. In Russia these serial was stoped ater secod season, and it seems, that they will not continue.
So, i was searching in the net traing to find others. And what i see now?
It is simply unfair.Nelly <enter@hotmail.ru>
St. Peterburg, Russia - Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 3:43 AM
Ah, Stargate SG-1! A much-loved show that has become an obsession. :) There have been other shows of which I have been an ardent fan. (In fact, I still have my Vincent poster on the wall from my Beauty and the Beast days). Yet, Stargate SG-1 has resonated with me in a way that no other has.I saw the movie years ago. I remember being captivated by the sense of wonder when they were first went through to Abydos, but from there it became a standard science fiction action/adventure film. I liked it, but didn’t give it too much thought afterwards. Then I heard it had been turned into a series and was being shown in syndication on the local Fox station. I was curious as to what they had done with the concept, so I checked it out. I enjoyed it, but it was difficult to follow through all the preemptions and schedule changes, so I didn’t get into it much. Finally, the schedule settled down and I was able to watch it more regularly. The show was enjoyable and I watched when I didn’t have other plans, but I didn’t really become hooked until I was fortunate enough to catch "The Fifth Race." Hook, line and sinker! The episode recaptured the magic of that first step through the Stargate in the movie. I eagerly watched the repeats of the episodes I had missed, and I was fortunate that my husband had the foresight to tape all but three episodes. (I have those right now in squinty version on CD-RW and look forward to taping them when SciFi Channel starts showing the older episodes).
Somewhere along the way I fell in love with a sweet, smart guy who shared the same interests I did in cultures, languages and the larger issues (the whole "secrets of life" stuff), a smart-mouthed, highly skilled soldier who was really just a big, old teddy bear inside, a dignified and calm warrior, and a brilliant scientist/soldier and all-around big sister. Many shows can draw me in with an interesting concept, but if there is no heart there, no sense of friendship/family, then I lose interest quickly. I got both the concepts I loved (the mythological and cultural stories) AND the family all wrapped up in one terrific package.
Enough to turn this woman into a regular viewer, but not enough for obsession. THAT came about after I went online. I dabbled in one other online fandom, but it didn’t take. Boy, did Stargate! I started off innocently enough in the fan fiction realm, having been roped in by the great writing of Jmas, foremost among other talented writers. Heliopolis became my mecca. I soon went in search of others with whom I could discuss the show and, truthfully, to read the stories before they became archived. I happened to come upon a great list called SG1HC (*waves to my fellow h/cers* "Hi, guys!" :D) and from there the rest is history. :)
It’s been three years now since I became the maniac that I am. It’s been a great ride for the most part. The series I loved dearly has changed in ways that I don’t particularly care for, but my love of the show still remains strong. If I’m not welcome by TPTB because my views of their program are different than theirs, then so be it. There’s always fan fic, although I prefer to couple it with the show itself. I really do need to be able to see and hear the characters and stories, not just read about them, being a TV/movie/theater type when it comes to fiction in spite of my love of reading. Well, I’ll see what the future holds when it gets here.
Still imagining and obsessing :)
Rowe
Rowe <ladybug67401@yahoo.com>
Kansas - Thursday, March 21, 2002, 10:41 PM
hey maria...
i couldnt stop thinkin of u and emma, and i was wondering if maybe emma would maybe like to e mail me sumtime,i kno dis must b wierd coming from someone u dont know, but i guess i just feel dat it would b nice to talk to someone, even if i dont know her, (as my friends arent being of much help at the moment) and to hear from u and emma would b great...but if u dont want to, its ok...and in advance sorry to bother u, just please let me down lightly if u dont, as it took me a looong time to bring up the courage to ask this because i hav a feeling that ur gonna think im just some strange girl who doesnt know what shes talkin about.sorry to ask such a strange question...Liyana :)
~LiYaNa~ <liyana_leo@msn.com>
burnley, england - Monday, February 4, 2002, 1:35 PM
(I’ll ask you guys in advance to pardon my writing skills. Also, warning: spoilers ahead)One day my wife, my two children, and I were in Blockbuster looking for a movie to watch on a rainy Saturday evenening.
"So, honey, what are you in the mood for?" I asked her.
"Romance." she said in her usual sarcastic way. We laughed, and hugged each other. That hug turned into a kiss. While we were kissing, our 7 year old sons came up to us.
"How about this one, daddy?" they asked. I picked it up.
"Stargate. Well, ya in the mood for some scifi?" I asked. She sarcastically rolled her eyes, and nodded. We got the video for five days, but the first time I saw it, I was hooked. This opened my door into the stargate univirse.
Shortly after that, I found out about the TV series. I began searching all over for Children of the Gods, through video stories and contacting my friends overseas and I even contacted Showtime to see if they would give me one. They did not.
Finally at last, I found it. I watched it. At first, everything seemed unfamiliar. Where did Colonel O’Neill go? Daniel? Whos this Tealc guy? After watching it a few more times, I finally began to get ’into’ the series. I looked for Episode 2, and then 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.....Today, I have every single episode on tape. Usually, I don’t remember the days when I watch an episode, I only remember the episode itself. But Meridian was special. I remember that day as if it were yesterday.
I went over to visit a friend in Florida. We often watch Stargate together. and today he got Meridian. We sat down, and began watching. Now, were both very opinionated people and we usually chatter away through the episodes and then somehow be able to remember the picture and sound as if we werent chattering. We talked through most of the episode, but then stopped. Jacob was about to try to heal daniel. We watched, our eyes fixed on the TV, seeing jacob pretty much sorta suceeding. Then it began displaying daniel. He began saying he was ready to go, stepped through the stargate. We watched blankly at the screen as daniel turned into one of those energy being, and floated off.
Now, I never cry unless a family member has died. Not even when I was a little boy did I cry for anything but that reason. My friend here cries all the time, but lets ignore him for now. Even though I knew that this was going to happen, I began crying. First it was one tear, then two, and then it turned into a full blown cry. It was like one of my family members died. Actually, one of my family members did die: Doctor Daniel Jackson, Ph.D. It may seem stupid, but he was like family to me.
Now every time I watch Stargate SG-1, it will never be the same. Episodes without Daniel will always be missing something. Missing the humour, joy, and geekiness that Daniel brought to Stargate. The Episodes with Daniel will just serve as a painful reminder of what happens to the fan when other "influencial people" degrade a character to the point where its so obvious that hes just there for....for "wallpaper". It began at Season 4, and ended in Season 5.
Thanks for listening...
Ian <tassadar5000@yahoo.com>
St. George, Utah - Monday, March 4, 2002, 10:26 PM
Actually I didn’t want to post, nor to write anything about this. But lately I thought about it more and more. I’m a lurker in several places, I lurk and watch, look how people feel and try to see it from both sides. I like to be objective and also I like to find the middle of all. Still, it doesn’t change the fact that I have an opinion too. In the last week I found myself getting more and more angry. But to this later.
For myself SG1 already ended with the season opener of season 5. Why, many will ask me this. My answer: it was plain boring. Getting to see the techno bugs again was not a good step imo, the only thing I could do was to switch it off, which I did. Thanks to a friend who’s taping me the eps I have season 5 complete here, but I never watched it, the interest just died. Wouldn’t it have been for the friend, who needed an ep back, I surely would have never watched "Beast of Burden" either. There was even an ep, and I honestly can’t remember which one, where I spent forwarding the tape until I came to the interesting parts. Again boring. After a certain convention I may have seen now 5 eps at all, including "Wormhole X-Treme" which (surely oddly enough for many) I found very funny. Mmh. Do I miss the rest? No. It’s not important to me anymore. Did I watch "Meridian"? No. I did read the spoilers, I saw a few screencaps, that’s it. I don’t intend to watch.
What makes me a fan then? I don’t know. It was actually pure accident I stumbled into this fandom 2 years ago. Starting with a gift - a DVD from SG1 season 2. What got me hooked up to it? When I want to answer this, then the movie. I loved it dearly, every minute of it. I was greatly disappointed when the show started, because I simply do not like people copying other’s work (same goes for the music, I deny to listen to anything which is called "A cover Version" or similar). Eventually I watched it, and found it very entertaining, also starting to like it. Anyway, in the year 2000 the internet became a very good place for me to gain more informations about upcoming episodes. And then I found fanfictions. Today I can surely say, the fanfictions are to blame for me being a fan. At this time they gave me what I needed, having more SG1 adventures. The fanfictions are still the mainreason which keeps me in this fandom, because this fandom has become very sore over the last 2 years. (I’m a die hard fanfiction reader, I read everything, starting with a little ship, over to het, gen and up to slash.) Which leads me to the two big parts we have right now: the yes sayers, and the no sayers. There are people caught up in the middle too. While I can understand the yes sayers to watch season 6, I can also understand the no sayers. It’s not hard to see the points coming from both sides, but it seems hard to stop fighting and here again I’m sure most don’t want to fight, but oddly enough it still flames up. I can also understand why so many say "No, I won’t watch it anymore.", because, like for myself, something is left out, or more, we already stopped watching some time ago.
Now this leads me directly to TPTB. I have read the responses from Mr. Mallozzi, while it’s appreciated that he takes the time to response and tries to sort out.. the so called "mess", it leaves me wondering what good is it actually doing. It also leaves me puzzled if.. his bosses actually know that he’s answering questions coming from the fans. Mmh. And certainly things are extremely hot right now.
Showtime: I wondered a long time why they didn’t air the new eps. A few days ago I had a thought: What if MGM told Showtime not to air it as it usually happened, because they didn’t want that most of the viewers get to know about Daniel’s departure? With the current schedule it means writing and filming already started and when it hits the screen.... it could be already too late for the rest of the US fans to change anything. But, this is a *very* big *what if* here, it just occured my mind and left an odd taste.
Why am I angry? Several points: that TPTB allowed, or allowed the writers, to leave out DJ like this, when he was one of two main characters, and a really important one, in the movie *and* in the show. For also allowing that Teal’c gets cut off like this, having barely something to say at all. For killing off Sam’s guys. The woman must be traumatized by now. When you came from the season one opener and watched your way through all seasons till season 5+, then you have the feeling something is odd, different, in season 4+. I dare to say, like brain washed.
My mainpoints? I’m sick of bad writing, sick of that a good show like this started to go down hill a long time ago. Sick of a war *within* the fandom, when we have enough war going on out there in our RL already. Sick of hearing: "You HAVE to do this or that or you aren’t a fan." What a crap. Sick of getting called a minority, when ALL are fans and helped the show to develop and grow in the last years. Sick of getting a kick in our butt now when voicing concerns as a thank you for supporting the show in the last years. And obviously, the very helpful criticism isn’t acknowledged at all. And that’s actually what should get others thinking, because it can be extremely helpful to get better and to improve. But it seems to be the other way around, if you criticize, then you are a bad fan. Thank you very much for stomping down on us like this, on your own fans, who make sure you get paid every month. Thank you.
A lurker
Thursday, February 21, 2002, 9:55 AM
Thank you Maria Tiller! I am a fan from the U.S.. Although I have been part of this campaign for a while and have known about MS/DJ leaving for a while, I never thought about the impact this would have on my children. We probably won’t be seeing Meridian until April, at the rate Showtime is going. I have eight kids (aged 8 years old to 7 months old triplets). Although I have very passionately been raising them as gateheads/gaters, I never thought of what Meridian would mean to them. There are episodes that I have told them in the past, actually there were **many** in Season 5--already, that I said they can’t watch and were to violent/inappropriate. But, if I let them watch "any" of season 6, I am going to have to explain what happened to Daniel/Michael Shanks. What am I supposed to tell them? --Our beloved Daniel was killed off because of the stupid politics of the show!?C. B. Mahoney <brenda552001@yahoo.com>
U.S.A. - Sunday, February 3, 2002, 8:42 PM
wow, ive bin reading ur messages, and it has totaly touched me deeply...i dont know wot to say, when i watched daniel dying i cried so much, i jus couldnt stop, but reading ur messages has made me feel so much more n as i sit here cryin my eyes out yet again, i wish i had a friend like your daughter Emma, some one who can care so much n has so much confidence to never give up.
i kno im jus some nobody who doesnt know you, but i fely dat id never get over it until now, knowing that theyre are much more devoted fans out there.
please come back michael...we all love you...sorry if ive wasted your time with mt blabbering, but thankyou for reading this
liyana
liyana <liyana_leo@msn.com>
burnley, england - Sunday, February 3, 2002, 4:21 PM
I have never been able to determine precisely what a "true fan" is. I only know that I am told I am not one if I express sentiments which differentiate me from a doormat. Therefore, I am proud to be "a bad fan" of Stargate SG-1. Loyalty only gets you so far. Tell me, TPTB, what have you done for me lately?Sage
Wednesday, February 6, 2002, 12:41 PM
Although I haven’t quite gotten the full aspect of why this is called the ’Seven of Nine Demographic’ I think I have the idea. I have to say, being that I am attracted to men and women seems to make no difference to me, I still love Daniel to death! I won’t say I love him the most, but that’s just the way it is. Ever since the moment I found out about his departure, I dedicated almost every spare second to this fight of saving him. Don’t tell me it was all in vain.How Stargate changed my life? Well, this first part may be a teeny bit OT, but from the first time I saw the original movie, the character of Daniel really changed my life. He showed me that even a person with so many weaknesses can have strengths as well. A person with so many flaws can still be loved by millions.
As soon as I saw the SG-1 movie, Children Of The Gods, I was instantly attatched to Daniel’s charm and brilliance, like a moth to the flame. I haven’t been a loyal viewer of the show for very long, but from what I’ve seen, we just can’t go on without our Daniel.
I am a 17 year old, who was almost forced to finish school early last year, because I have severe back problems that are slowly disabling me, and I have to go in and out of hospitols around the state far too often. I was only in school for maybe 3 years total, then homeschooled the rest of the time. I also went through a lot of abuse from someone who is no longer in my life, and through all of this, it amazes me even to say that Daniel really helped me out. He always made me smile, and cry when I needed to but couldn’t, and he made me see I could still do a lot, if I was in a wheelchair or not. He has also made me see that, despite the fact that I will probably never be able to work, I should still study. There are always things to learn, and discovery is what keeps my mind occupied these days.
Girls may very well be SG-1’s biggest fan base, and it was all because of Daniel. I want to thank MICHAEL for making my life worth living, even during the times I would rather have been dead.
And to all the DANIELites, for making me laugh when nothing else can!! Love you all!
Kris <torres262@yahoo.com>
MI, USA - Friday, February 15, 2002, 10:39 AM
Oh hear me, great and powerful TV producers although I lack the almighty penis!Stupid bastards. I’m single, have a rather enormous disposable income, and love to spend money on toys. How the hell can I possibly be less important as a demographic target than some 15 year old weenie who has an allowance and blows it all on porn and cheapass playstation cartridges? It’s been proven time and time again that when a TV show, particularly a genre show, bows to "accepted wisdom" and pursues the wanker-male demogrpahic to the exclusion of all others, it sinks like the Bismarck. When will they learn?
Janis Cortese <janis@io.com>
San Diego, CA - Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 9:07 PM
I am proud to say I am a fan of the greatest SCFI series ever created.I watched MERIDION last Wednesday.It was a very sad story but it showed to perfection the kind of person Daniel Jackson is.He put his own life in mortal danger to save millions of people.But dont ever forget the fact that on that planet were also the three people he loved most in the world.The only family he had left.The people who helped him through all his many problems.Jack,Sam and Teal’c.Yes I agree that Daniel will be missed and I who have watched every episode since CHILDREN OF THE GODS will miss him to.But this is Micheal Shanks choice to make and he did say that he made it with a heavy heart.I went to WOLFSG4 last weekend and Michael and Amanda wre there.I will never forget the Fancy Dress party when the words THANK YOU MICHAEL SHANKS FOR FIVE WONDERFUL YEARS appeared on the screen.Michael and Amanda were in tears when that appeared.The reaction of the audiance is somthing I dont think they will ever forget.Amanda said in a recent interveiw that she and Chris cried all of the week that they were filming MERIDION.It was clear to see how much the fact Michael is leaving has upset Amanda.But she who holds him in such high regard can respect his choice.Grieve for Daniel yes and miss him.As for Jonas Quin he left his world to give the SGC the mineral and to tell them what Daniel had done.Maybe he left a family there? But he did this to honour a man who saved his life and his world.Grieve for Daniel but please remember the poeple he loved.Jack is not a person who can show emotion easily so dont blame him if it is not clear how he feels.The best way to honour Michael and Daniel is to continue watching this brilliant series and allow Jack,Sam and Teal’c to live.Because if the series finishes before its time they will die to.I think the last thing Michael would want is the series to be cancelled.I can see why fans are upset a great charactor has died.But there is a chance he could come back for some episodes and the film if they make one.But it makes me So angry when some fans write letters to the executive producers and MGM saying they speak for all fans.Every one has there own voices and feelings.THIS IS MY OWN FEELING ON THIS MATTER.I DON’T PRETEND TO SEAK FOR ANY ONE ELSE.I will watch every episode (missing Daniel) fom now on.I have wrote a email to the cast,crew and creators of STARGATE SG1 thanking them for a wonderful series and wishing them best of luck and love for the futre.I wrote on my own behalf not pretending to speak for anyone else.This is the opinion of one person.I hope you can respect that.I hope that the Sam and Jack problem will be resolved.They diserve to be happy.One person has said on this web site that Sam is the least liked charactor.Well all I can I can say is that person has not been watching the same series.I might offended some poeple with this but I dont think they understood Daniel at all.At the end of the day he did die to save the lives of millions of people and the friends that he loved.Honour his memmory by letting them live.DONT LET HIS DEATH BE FOR NOTHING.and finely THANK YOU MICHAEL SHANKS FOR FIVE WONDERFUL YEARS.From a true fan of STARGATE SG1 and person who is proud to call herslf one.MARY ANN LATHAM(a true fan of STARGATE SG1) <PRIVATE>
STAFFORD, BRITAIN - Wednesday, February 6, 2002, 8:14 AM
Hello! I’m a Spanish fan of Stargate SG-1, and I wanted to tell you how I feel about the show, most of all these days....I first saw Stargate SG-1 two and a half years ago. They were airing it at our local television, and as I had seen the film and loved it, I thought ‘what the heck, there’s nothing else good on telly anyway’ so I saw the pilot. That was the day I knew that if I was ever going to like a show, that show would be Stargate. I so loved ‘Children of the Gods’! I think I like this ep more than the film. And I loved the new interaction they put in Jack and Daniel. So cool!
Well, time passed until they cancelled the show. We had only got to see until ‘The Tok’ra’, and I feel so angry they decided the show was not good enough to be airing..... but I let it pass. Then, after four or five months, to my surprise they started airing again Stargate, from the first ep, and again I fell on the routine to watch it every day, and every day I liked more what I was seeing. We finally got to see ‘The Fifth Race’, my fav ep, but two days later they cancelled the show again. That time I didn’t want to let it pass, so I thought ‘if Mohammed doesn’t go to the mountain...’, and I started searching in Internet. That did the trick. I met a lot of wonderful people there, some of them I know personally and I’ve got the honour of calling them friends, and we all had something in common: We liked Stargate, and we liked most of all, because the relationships and the dynamics of the team. So when I read about Daniel’s departure, I felt devastated, and a lot more when I saw Merdian last week. Knowing that a lot of people felt the same as I help me to get a little over it, but I find myself surprised at how Daniel quitting had affected me, although now I know why. I don’t consider Stargate SG-1 just a show anymore. It has become a part of my life, because thanks to Stargate I’ve learnt a lot of things and I’ve made wonderful friends, and when something like that happens, you don’t want anything to change.
I love SG-1 as they are, everyone of them is essential for keeping the whole team alive. Now that Daniel has gone, I’m not sure SG-1 will ever again be what was once, and that makes me really sad. I hope things turn on for the better and soon we see Daniel again, with Jack, Sam and Teal’c!
Ribbon <amy_jorda@yahoo.com>
Terrassa, Spain - Tuesday, February 5, 2002, 3:59 PM
I don’t fit the demographic TPTB were looking for, too old and too female for what I think to ever count it seems. But that didn’t stop me from falling for Stargate SG-1 from early on - Daniel’s humanity & love of learning, Jack’s stubborn & sarcastic nature, Sam’s intelligence & zest for life and Teal’c’s humour & loyalty.What’s SG done for me? Opened up a whole new world, encouraged me to communicate with my fellow inhabitants of this fine planet in a way that I’d never thought I’d be able to do, brought me to places I might never have visited, given me good friends I’d never thought to have looked for.
We might not have been the people TPTB were aiming for, but I’m encouraged by the fact that we’ll be the people who remember the show, the people who keep the SG fandom going long after Brad Wright and co. have moved onto different things.
They might forget SG-1, try and ignore the importance of all 4 characters to the show, but we won’t.
Thanks guys, it was a hell of a ride while it lasted.
Graculus <graculus@btinternet.com>
Sunday, February 10, 2002, 8:35 PM
Let’s see, I’m a 30 year old therapist and sports developer in the UK. Moreover, I am massively enthusiastic of those rare moments when I see many creative forces come together, spilling delight, real delight into a generally dulled and unremarkable world. I love words, language, pure emotions, hope and clever, cleverness. So, I just want to swim in the tide of despair that Daniel’s departure has nourished, not just because he’s gone but in recognition of all their time together...
Subtract the clear merchandising opportunities, the emphasis on beauty, the need to explain everything and the band wagon mentality of TV the world over and the door is opened to more subtle explorations.
SG1 seems to afford itself the freedom to reflect without needing to dwell. I see everyday heroic things around me in my work, little but wonderful things. Yet they often go unrecognised. Saving face for a loved one, choosing not to hurt someone, asking nothing in return...
And I get the chance to see that these same values apply elsewhere when they are extolled on TV. The way they are in SG1. And that gives me hope.
No flo-mo scenes there.
At it’s best, it is akin to the likes of crouching tiger, hidden dragon. At it’s worst, a great TV show about a great water effect the places it takes us...
...which is, so often, where I was headed anyway
Sam
Sam Wardhan <a.horowitz@ntlworld.com>
Lincoln, UK - Friday, February 1, 2002, 9:21 PM
I am 46 this year and a company president, I am out of the UK many months of the year, but never have I missed an episode of Stargate SG1, and considering I only watch around 3 hours of TV per week that should tell you how much I like the program, Stargate SG1 is the only fandon that I am in to. It is the team that won me over, the family that they are, but it was Daniel Jackson that did it for me, one man in an army of military minded people, who made them think of the more important issues.Even though I myself do not write fanfics I can say that I have enjoyed reading the other writer’s work and will still carry on reading, but I don’t think I will be reading anything that does not have Daniel as part of the team and I don’t think I will be bothering with the series six when and if it comes on Sky TV.
All I can say Michael is good luck in what ever you do and I wish you well in the future.
Gail Lavigne <lavigne@hqww2.freeserve.co.uk>
Tavistock, England - Thursday, January 31, 2002, 12:18 AM
I’m a 21 year old female (yes people, I’m a girl - Dan is short for Danielle) who’s going on 22 in two months. If I let people go on my nickname alone I’d be in that precious demographic TV producers seem to love... Actually, I probably am since I do as much lusting after female characters as I do after male ones.That is, if I have a reason to. I’m not into the bimbo type I have to admit - so there go a lot of the characters that are turned out in today’s shows. I mean, I like attractive women, but its also nice to be able to carry out an intelligent conversation too if you get my drift. You could probably call me a geek girl since I have a degree in science (oh, by the way, if you know of any pathology labs that’re looking for technicians, you wanna drop me a line?), but that’s not why I watch science fiction. I don’t even like some major shows in the sci-fi world. I can’t handle all but one of the Star Trek series (not including Enterprise since I haven’t seen it yet). I used to watch Farscape, but then Channel Nine got all funky with the scheduling and I lost interest in a show that I previously loved (gotta love program planners). I watched Sliders until the Professor died - I loved that bloke, reminded me of Pavarotti except that he thankfully didn’t burst into song and he didn’t have that whole handkerchief thing going on. There are a few other series that I’ve watched, several more that I’ve lost interest in (case in point, the X-Files - it just got lost in its own mythology).
And now Stargate... Thank you Channel Seven. Thanks to this mob, I’m yet to actually see the end of season 5 - but I’ve got tapes when I get around to it. Which isn’t going to be any time soon I’m afraid. Probably due to a combination of pure laziness and my growing disinterest.
Hey, its a long two metres to where I keep my tapes okay?
Don’t ask me why I’m starting to lose interest in one of my favourite obsessions. Perhaps its the way the team formula’s changing in the eps I have seen (the moment two main characters fall for each other I start to feel a bit iffy - I’m not exactly shipper material)... Perhaps its because there are a few eps in what I’ve seen of S5 that suck so much that they blow. Who knows, who cares? I’m an ex-university student who’s flat broke, lives out in the middle of nowhere and is the wrong gender appparently.
I’m not worth much to a TV producer.
Dan
Dan <DJs_specs@yahoo.com>
Mount Isa (dare ya to find that on a map), Australia - Wednesday, January 30, 2002, 10:58 PM
When I was fourteen I was captured by the show ’sliders’. I liked the whole family eliment of the show and the shared goal to get home - an important theme for many a show/film. Then it happened - a member of the family left/died. I didn’t know why at the time and felt I had no power to change it - if the actor wanted to leave that was his decision. I didn’t blame anyone and tried to adjust to tne new demographic the show had taken. It didn’t work and slowly one at a time the original members left leaving one to carry the whole thing and totally lost track of why they were sliding in the first place.
This now applies to a new show I have become attached to. I know that if the storylines for a character become tiresome the easiest thing to do is let them go. This however is not a solution. An actor leaving for his career is one thing but cutting a character because you don’t know what to do is, dare I say, less than intelligent. I used to believe I had no say in the way a show would go and had no right to tell people their job but I keep forgetting who the show is being produced for - management or the viewers? I can’t help but wonder if all those years ago if only I had spoken up another show would still be going strong. I hope those in charge of production read these messages and understand that if they need help or ideas then they can come to the people who want to see them - us.
I do hope I don’t have to watch another classic show degrade in front of my eyes.Lynsey <ps0andr@student.qmuc.ac.uk>
Edinburgh, Scotland - Thursday, January 24, 2002, 5:27 AM
After seeing Slida’s wonderful letter, I had to add a small but significant statement to my own. My original letter appears about 4 or 5 places down beneathe this one, and mentions:
"I found true friends, from all around the globe - and I *do* mean *true*
friends, the kind you share your soul with, the kind who laugh with you and cry with you, the kind who share your
excitement when things go well in your life, and who offer sincere consolation when things do not, the kind who
remember your birthday or other special days even when your family might seem to take them for granted, the kind you
can count on to be there even when the world itself seems to have been turned upside-down."I now want to make it very clear that most of those cherished friends are indeed Slida’s DANIELites. She’s created a marvelous, warm, friendly, fun and supportive *home* for us, and I thank her from the bottom of my heart!
{{{{HUGS}}}} to Slida, and to DANIELites everywhere! ;-)
Debra <dkraft@yazaki-na.com>
Detroit, MI/USA - Thursday, January 17, 2002, 7:37 AM
How has Stargate SG-1 changed my life? Such a loaded question. For a start, how on Earth could a television show mean so much to me? How could a certain character inspire me in so many ways?Well I don’t know how. I just know that it did, and Daniel Jackson was a large factor in it. I know Daniel and online fandom changed my life. Heck, it’s *been* my life for the last three, almost four years. And I’m 19 now, so Stargate has taken up all of my late teen years. If it’s true, and that’s when ‘stuff’ happens to you, then I spent it with Stargate, Daniel, Jack and different online communities that mean so much to me.
It’s not my first fandom, not my first major fandom… but it is the fandom that I first wrote fan fiction in, the first fandom that I really joined in with the online community and the first fandom that took me on my first holiday without my parents to go to a convention. It’s the first fandom where I’ve actually met all the people I’ve talked with everyday for at least two years.
I’ve met some wonderful people over the last few years, too many to mention. With communities like the DANIELites and Jackdaniels, where there are so many caring and helpful people, I know that some of these people who I’ve met will be friends of mine for a long time. These people have helped me through such mundane things as recommending fanfics to read, all the way to supplying information for essays at university to helping me through the bad times in my life. And I thank them wholeheartedly for that, and I thank Stargate, and Daniel, for being the one thing that first made us come together. At first, it may have been the only thing that we had in common, but it united us from all over the world and we found so much more to talk about.
More specifically, Stargate and Daniel have helped me decide what I want to do with my life. Others may talk about discovering a love for archaeology, linguistics or physics through Stargate… mine was slightly different. Yes, I took a course in linguistics (but that was just for fun! Daniel was the inspiration behind that decision though!) but my Major is in Film Studies. I would love to produce my own successful television show one day. And from Stargate and other shows, just by watching, I’ve learned what to do and what not to do.
I love Stargate SG-1, I really do. And as much as I can watch episodes like Torment of Tantalus, The Serpent’s Lair, Need, One False Step, Legacy or Deadman’s Switch over and over again, there are some things that have happened in Seasons 4 and 5, that have changed Stargate so much that I may still watch, but only with hope that the show will return to it’s former glory. And to its credit, it gave us some great episodes, like Absolute power, Enemies and Beast of Burden, but also some that took the show in a direction that I don’t like. And, unfortunately, I’m not the only one who feels that way.
But there are people much more eloquent than I who have already gone into great detail about the contrived nature of any kind of romantic involvement between Carter and O’Neill, or the diminishing of Teal’c and, in recent episodes, of Daniel to wallpaper status. And I would just like to add a ‘me too’ to how I feel about these developments. I don’t like them.
We are all campaigning, and not just for Daniel to return. If Michael Shanks doesn’t want to return then I would in no way want to force him to return, but I do want to say that I don’t think I’ll be watching season 6 without him.
I always saw SG-1 as a team of people who were completely different. They certainly aren’t heroes and individually, they would never get along. If it hadn’t been for the Stargate, they would probably never have even met. But because of this big round disc, they did meet, and become friends who care a lot about each other, more than they should. Take away one member of that team and to me, it all falls apart. Try and replace him? No, that would never work. It seemed rather like a miracle that these four worked together so well. Just replace a member of the team and that message loses a lot of impact and reduces all four of them to nothing very special at all.
Lastly, I’d just like to send some heartfelt thanks to Mr. Michael Shanks. His portrayal of Daniel for five years was a joy to watch. From happiness and wonderment to despair, addiction and madness it was one great ride that I hope doesn’t end with the end of season 5. Daniel was a real person to me. And that is all down to you. Thank you.
linsey <linsey_kree@hotmail.com>
perth, UK - Wednesday, January 16, 2002, 11:23 AM
I’m a thirty eight year old mother of two small daughters, again not part of the demographic MGM appear to be cultivating, but hopefully my comments will count for something.When I first saw the show I hated it. I loved the movie and RDA’s Jack was too far removed from the movie for me, drove me round the bend. Then I saw Shades of Grey and thought "That’s not the usual Jack, something weird is going on here." It was the way he treated Daniel which sparked my interest. Obviously I’d been absorbing the show by osmosis while I was taping it for my husband. Very soon after that I was hooked.
The storylines were clever, fresh and new in science fiction, and the whole team dynamic was so special, particularly the interaction between Jack and Daniel. Take that away and for me at least it ceases to be Stargate SG1. When it was first announced that Michael was leaving I figured it was his choice to make and supported him as I always do. Now it seems he didn’t jump, he was pushed, and from watching season five I can see why he would want to leave. Daniel is being shafted by the writers, and by extension so is Michael. If they want to keep the viewing rates up so that they can spin SG1 off into something else, this isn’t the way to go about it. SG1 is *not* SG1 without Daniel Jackson and the show is *not* the show without the contribution of Michael Shanks. His portrayal of Daniel as the moral conscience of the team, his quiet strength of character and his fortitude in the face of adversity made him my favourite character on the show and I can’t see myself watching it without him.
Personally, I was burned by the demise and scrappy last season of Babylon 5 and sadly it seems SG1 is going the same way. I don’t want to be left with a bitter taste in my mouth. I began writing while I was involved in the B5 fandom, but it was Daniel and the rest of SG1 which really helped me to develop as a writer, to the extent that I now have the confidence to enter writing competitions and am getting extremely high marks in my creative writing university course. I have Michael Shanks and Daniel Jackson to thank for that, if not for the enjoyment he and the others have given me during my short time within the fandom.
It’s doubtful I’ll have the bottle to tell him this in person, so I’m saying it here.
Thanks Mike. For everything. We’ll miss you.
Wadjet <munko@erehwon.karoo.co.uk>
Hull, Yorkshire UK - Wednesday, January 16, 2002, 7:40 AM
Definitely not of the ’Seven of Nine’ demographic, an almost-31 year old female medical professional, I have only just recently entered the realm of SG-1 devotee. I had watched the show on and off since it began and was instantly drwan to the character of Daniel - don’t ask me why but I always go for the interesting, intelligent, with lots of inner strength types, maybe because I am like that. Australia is way behind with episodes so I bought the Season 1 DVD box set from Amazon and spent a whole week of my holiday entralled and entertained. My imagination was ignited. I’ve just spent a small fortune on the next 3 series of DVDs which I’m awaiting from the UK (the exchange rate sucks).
I know it’s sounds silly but my life has been changed by SG-1. My imagination was so stimulated by the show that I have finally started the novel(fantasy genre) I always wanted to write but never had the courage to commit to paper. Maybe it’ll come to nothing, but at least I would have tried.
I was incredibly upset by the news that Michael Shanks had decided to leave the show but I understand the reasons. For a character to just fade into the background must be like a slow death for the actor who portrays him. A part of the SG-1 magic has been lost. I can only hope that the efforts of fans can return him and Daniel to the show, on the right terms. If not, then so be it and I wish Michael well in his future pursuits. Thanks for all the memories.
Arona <arona_o@ivillage.com>
Melbourne, Australia - Tuesday, January 15, 2002, 6:04 PM
Share my experiences of Stargate SG-1?It changed my life. I mean that literally, and from a very real, very human perspective, not the fandomonium or groupie perspective from which those words might appear to have derived. I joined the fandom because I thoroughly enjoyed the series. Every episode was wonderfully creative. Every character was fresh and real. The team interaction was outstanding, with each person adding a unique link in a beautifully woven chain. These aspects blended together in a way I’d not seen on television before. Hence, I joined the fandom for the chance to share my *wonder* with others who would understand what I was talking about. I expected nothing more than some moments of "play" here and there. But I received something priceless in return. I found true friends, from all around the globe - and I *do* mean *true* friends, the kind you share your soul with, the kind who laugh with you and cry with you, the kind who share your excitement when things go well in your life, and who offer sincere consolation when things do not, the kind who remember your birthday or other special days even when your family might seem to take them for granted, the kind you can count on to be there even when the world itself seems to have been turned upside-down.
There are incredibly, special, marvelous people in this fandom. These are the kind of people Stargate SG-1 attracted early on, during its first and finest seasons. They are intelligent, well-spoken individuals, who respect the anthropological and cultural flavor to the story-lines. Many fans have earned a new fascination for archeology, and some younger fans have even embarked on career paths inspired by the references on the show, taking on college studies in history, anthropology, archeology - and likely astronomy and physics as well.
Unfortunately, the fandom has been altered somewhat by the story-lines of seasons 4 and 5. The changing team dynamics with the principal characters are often identified as the root cause of heated debates, and have pushed some viewers away. There could be no greater change than the removal of SG-1’s "heart", Dr. Daniel Jackson. And there has been no greater out-cry.
Daniel Jackson stepped through the Stargate in search of "meaning of life stuff", as noted in season 1’s "Torment of Tantalus". It is not, therefore, surprising to think back on the *wonder* I’d experienced alongside him on the journey. After all, isn’t that something we’re all seeking, and always questioning? If you take that away, all you have left is formula television, more "same old, same old". The wonder I’d found after 40 years of flipping channels is swept under the rug. Stargate SG-1 is diverted from a universe filled with "what-if’s" and unceremoniously deposited into the corporate realm of dollars-and-cents, where all that matters is demographics - a word with little real value in the end. If demographics’ studies were perfect, there would be no failed shows on television - every one would be a winner. Yet aren’t the majority of new programs introduced in a given year actually cancelled and quickly forgotten?
Isn’t it sad, now that there are literally hundreds of channels to choose from, there is so little worth choosing? I *choose* Stargate SG-1 as it was, with the chain unbroken, with its heart and soul intact and its teammates complete. If that’s not a choice, then I suppose my television will get far less use in the future.
Debra <dkraft@yazaki-na.com>
USA - Tuesday, January 15, 2002, 4:29 PM
My experience of Stargate... Well, I loved the original movie. I went to see it for a couple of reasons: 1) it featured Kurt Russell, 2) it was science fiction and 3) it featured a lot of Egyptian mythology. As someone who majored in archeology as one of my majors in college, Egyptology was definitely a draw for me. I loved the fact that the writers tried for some sort of realism with the language and culture on Abydos. I came away from the movie a huge fan of the character of Daniel Jackson. I remember discussing it at the time with other friends that I thought it was so refreshing that the smart guy, the intellectual, the one they were all discounting and calling a geek, was actually allowed to be their savior and the true hero of the film. (Useless fact: there is a very well-known Celtic scholar and linguist named Kenneth Jackson.)I never watched Stargate SG-1 until recently. I have a friend who has been a big fan for several years and she used to tell me about it all the time. I was always trying to remind myself to catch it, but always seemed to forget. Then, one of my favorite actors, Peter Wingfield (Tanith), guest starred in a 4th season episode. I didn’t understand a lot of the episode, but I fell in love with Jack and Daniel and the Stargate universe all over again. I started watching, both on Showtime and previous seasons in syndication. I bought the DVD set for Season 1.
I find that I still think Daniel is the one true hero of the story. Without Daniel, there would be no Stargate program. Without the Daniel and Jack dynamic, the fact that they are such opposites and yet manage to come together as friends and colleagues and heroes, the show seems so much flatter. I’ve already seen it happening throughout the middle part of Season 5 as Daniel has been written more and more into the background. I love the character of Sam as she was written in earlier seasons of the show. During Season 5, she’s suddenly so often front and center, to the detriment of the other characters (even Jack), that I’m beginning to dislike her. This annoys me, because I think that good role models for females are few and far between on television. Sam is smart and pretty and funny and, up until fairly recently, she was written as a very believable, albeit far above normal in intelligence, character. Lately she seems to have turned into SuperSam, and I hate it. I feel bad for even saying this because Amanda Tapping is an awesome actress and she’s done a great job on the show. Teal’c is an interesting character and there have been many great stories about him in past seasons. He had a great story line at the beginning of Season 5 and since then seems to have gone mute or something. He sort of lurks in the background.
For me, the crux of the matter comes down to emotion. The earlier seasons of the show had great passion and drama and the main characters showed that they cared for one another, even if they often disagreed about ways and means. Lately, the emotion and the passion seem to have bled out of the show in favor of more and more action. Less and less dialogue and interaction. More emphasis on guest characters and less focus on the characters so many of us have grown to love and admire over the last five years. The writing of so many episodes seems so flat and shallow. Episodes that TPTB describe as "team" episodes consist of the team in one place at the same time, but that is about it. I wish I knew why the writing on the show seems to have drifted so far left of center. They claim they aren’t writing to attract a certain demographic, but I don’t see how anyone can deny that the focus of the show has shifted. It has now shifted to the point that one of their top actors, one of the main characters (and to many of us THE main characters), has chosen to leave the show. I would think that speaks for itself?
Ann Wortham <ashton7@aol.com>
Orlando, FL - Monday, January 14, 2002, 4:04 PM
I don’t like the outfit either but a lot of people that don’t like her use the catsuit and her sex appeal as the sole reason. There was a lot more to her character than that.Jean <jmc3@hotmail.com>
Brisbane, Qld, Australia - Sunday, January 13, 2002, 5:43 AM
Yo, Jean!Re: 7 of 9. Don’t hate her, want to date her. ;-)
Sage
Saturday, January 12, 2002, 3:04 PM
Hey, Jean. I LIKED Seven of Nine. I just thought her costume was insulting and sexist. It was so tight that the actress passed out more than once. Ugh! None of that is the character’s fault. She’s still cool.Katherine
Atlanta, Georgia - Saturday, January 12, 2002, 2:51 PM
Stargate SG-1 quickly became my favourite show after I started watching it in season 2. While I disagree with Michael Shanks’ reasons and I have really enjoyed season 5 so far, I do hope that the character of Daniel will have guest appearances in season 6 and in the movie.While this is a big change, unlike some people I don’t think Daniel leaving is going to ruin the show and I don’t agree with "SG1: All or Nothing" motto of this site. I look forward to the rest of the series and the spin-off and hope TPTB keep up the good work. But remember Daniel while you’re doing it.
Lastly, although not a young male, I thought 7 of 9 was a great character. If you can’t see past looks, that’s your problem.
Jean <jmc3@hotmail.com>
Brisbane, Qld, Australia - Saturday, January 12, 2002, 4:34 AM
Count me out, out, out of anything to do with a Stargate that doesn’t have Daniel Jackson & Jack O’Neill together. Jack needs Daniel to spark and RDA needs MS to spark. Even when Daniel isn’t in an episode that much it’s his scenes with Jack I remember. Look back at this season -- or any season -- and take out all the Jack and Daniel moments then see how many really sparkling moments there are. Stargate without Daniel is like chocolate chip cookies without the chocolate chips. It’s not even just Daniel we’re losing, we’re losing Jack & Daniel, and Jack, Daniel, Sam & Teal’c as well. We’re losing the history they have, the friendship they have and the team they’ve turned into. We’re losing too much to make what’s left worth watching. Unless S6 starts with Daniel descending and regaining his human form again then being in at least most of the episodes I’m not watching. Also I agree with everyone who says MS might have stuck around if they’d ever written about Daniel as well as Daniel deserves. How is it fans can come up with something interesting and original for the whole team to do every week no trouble at all but the professionals getting paid to do this have to keep ripping off movies or bringing in OCs? I think the writers really let Daniel down on this show, which means they let MS down and ultimately they let us down too. I’m sure if they just stick to their usual Daniel-bashing haunts they can go on kidding themselves the Daniel fans are just another ’vocal minority’ but I think they’re going to have one hell of a nasty reality check when they get the ratings for S6.H.D.
Hakana Delin <hakana_delin@yahoo.com>
Miami, Florida - Friday, January 11, 2002, 11:02 AM
I’m 26, a student, not the right demographic at all as I’m female and don’t even want to see the guys in a rubber boob tube let alone Tok’ra Spice. I don’t have much money but I was happy to spend what I had on Stargate DVDs until the last two seasons. I started watching because of the film. I totally adored the character of Daniel Jackson, he just *is* Stargate to me. When the series started I watched to see what was going to happen to Daniel and what the chemistry would be like between him and the actor playing Jack. I wanted to see the friendship that started in the film develop and them grow closer and it totally exceeded my expectations because I thought RD Anderson and M Shanks were even better together than K Russell and J Spader and RDA’s Jack was much kinder and gentler than the one in the film. I liked Sam and Teal’c. They were interesting characters then. Teal’c was in it as much as Sam was and Sam wasn’t hogging the whole show like she is now. I liked the feel to the first season and how the team developed and bonded together. I liked learning new things about the characters and the way they got closer. I thought the best S1 episode was The Torment of Tantalus but Solitudes was good too. I loved the way Jack and Daniel’s friendship developed, especially the end of Lair and the storeroom scene in Need. The Fifth Race and One False Step were great. They were so nice to each other back then and I was really interested to see how their friendship developed. I liked the way all the characters developed in S3 too, especially Legacy, Forever In A Day, the Hell episodes and Maternal Instinct. I hated Nemesis when Pod Jack and Pod Sam appeared making goo-goo eyes at each other and not bothering about Daniel. I didn’t like S4 except for The First Ones and Absolute Power. I like Enemies and Beast of Burden in S5 but I hate the X-Files plotline and I’m really sick of all these Sam episodes. I don’t know when she got promoted so far over Daniel and Teal’c that they just hang around in the background with nothing to do while it’s all about her. I think the writers think we have to *be* Sam to watch the show because they obviously have to *be* Jack to write it, but I don’t watch films or television shows like that. I don’t need to be in it. I just need it to be good. Stargate used to be and now it isn’t and without Daniel I don’t think it ever will be again. I don’t think I’m going to hang around and find out anyway. I don’t think I’ll even watch Meridian. I’m sitting here now thinking that it’s only a few hours to a new episode and I don’t even know if I want to watch it. Two years ago I would have been counting the hours, but what’s the point in watching episodes that don’t even feel as if they’re about our team any more?Cathy
Birmingham , UK - Wednesday, January 9, 2002, 10:47 AM
I’m very unhappy at the way the producers/MGM have messed up this show. I feel they’ve ruined something that used to be so good. Daniel is my favorite character and I don’t want to watch a show he’s not in. He always used to be the heart of the show but this season he’d hardly even appeared. In the movie he and Jack became friends but in Summit Jack doesn’t even care that Daniel is risking his life. What happened to their friendship? Jack used to protect him and care about him and that’s the main thing I like about the show. In s1 in T of Tantalus we saw how Daniel could be dazzled by his love of knowledge even to the extent of forgetting his wife. In FaW we see how brave Daniel is and how he will make friends with people even when they frighten him and how he would rather die than never see his wife or friends again and in TbftGoG we see all those people from a different universe sacrifice themselves for his sake. Even the other universe Jack can’t say ’no’ to him. When was the last time we had that kind of character insight into Daniel or into ANY of the main characters?I’ve been dissappointed with the show since the end of S3. Even in episodes like "Foot-hold", "New Ground" and "Crystal Skull" there wasn’t a proper ending. People are lost or harmed and there is no proper ’closure’ or sense of relief when they are recovered/saved.
I liked the relationships we saw in s2 where it wasn’t forbidden for all the characters to show affection for one another as friends. I like Daniel being hurt and Jack rescuing him so shoot me. It’s what I like and in the old episodes in s1 we used to get that a lot more. In s1 if Daniel was hurt/lost it was alright for Jack to be upset about it but from the end of s3 onwards that didn’t happen any more. I used to read spoilers so I could imagine how the episodes would go and up until the end of s3 they were usually better than I hoped for. But now I know they will be worse. I don’t even bother ’projecting’ any more because I know nothing interesting will happen to the characters that tells us anything new about them, and they certainly won’t have Daniel hurt and Jack caring about him because people might think they’re sleeping together and that would be the end of the world. :-P
I don’t understand MGM at all. Don’t they want their show to be liked by it’s fans? I know hundreds of people who are watching the show because Michael Shanks plays Daniel Jackson in it. I don’t know ANYONE who is watching it because it’s produced by Brad Wright and written by Paul Mullie & Joseph Malozzi. Someone at MGM should have taken a basic arithmetic class before they lost their most popular character just to keep an "X Gate" storyline no one but them seems to like.
diodorus <diodorus_siculus@yahoo.com>
New York, USA - Wednesday, January 9, 2002, 10:14 AM
HELLO.Iam a big fan a big of StarGate for longer time. I dont know what is happening about StarGate scene now, because in local telivisions the show have stopped after season four. And dont know why the show isnt continuing. I hope that I will see next seasons. I have read some texts which tells about that Daniel Jackson is ending in the show. I have watched a video from chapter six with new character, but I havent seen Daniel Jackson. I like all characters of StarGate, my best isnt Daniel, but I think, that Daniel Jakson is the most important character in the show. At beginning wasnt StarGate show, but StarGate movie (film). In this movie Daniel Jackson have been as main charakter, without him u.s. army wouldnt know how StarGate works. I think Daniel is very important for StarGate scene. And If you have some new informations about cause please write they on this server or to my e-mail. Thank You. I hope that StarGate show will continue as the show for Sci-Fi fans who believe the power of StarGate world or the power of own world.
Iam sorry for my English, because Iam still learnig it. I live in Czech Republic but I havent Czech nationality, but isnt important. I want to say that StarGate have fans in WEST-MIDDLE(CENTRAL) Europe too. And I for all times believe
that freedom is all for me, I want to tell that isnt important when a human was born (f.e.: U.S., Korea, Russia, Iraq or Germany). I think if a human feels free and believe independance its great for him and for world. If the freedom of world is growing now (grows the number of freefom people) it is super. I know that everyone is freedom and I feel that StarGate is the show, for freedom, strong ideas peoples who loved Sci-fi. And I think that StarGate world is great, because is too strong and shows strongs and powers of this world. What do you think? I tkink that. Its all from me.
Goodbay.
Peter Kajfosz <kificzek@msn.com>
Trinec, Czech Republic - Thursday, September 26, 2002, 6:32 PM
I've just finished watching the final episode of Season 5 and I was saddened to see what happened with Daniel Jackson. I had no idea that was going to happen. It's a shame it had to end that way for the character and for Michael Shanks. Surely they could've thought of another way to say goodbye. I'll definitely miss the comraderie he had with the other members of SG-1. I felt he was a big part of the show; pity the "higher powers" behind the show didn't think so too. I hope it's possible to see him return but from reading Michael's interviews, I can't see that happening unless they revamp his character. It's been a pleasure to watch you Michael. All the best for the future. From an Aussie fan of Stargate.Julie Ness <jlienss@optusnet.com.au>
Ipswich, Australia - Thursday, September 12, 2002, 8:34 AM
I only started watching the show because my dad had seen the original movie and decided to give the series a go. I had no idea what it was about and from the trailers thought is was about this matcho soldier defending the planet from nasty aliens. I had come in to the show about series four but it was only when SKY1 were showing re-runs of the early seasons episodes that i got completely hooked an fell in love with this gentle, carismatic, funny intelligent man searching for his wife. I decided to get the movie on dvd to satisfy my curiosity. I'd never stopped to think about premise of the story and how real it was to being true. I suddenly got caught up in the Ancient cultures and from a from somthing i expected to be just another sci-fi show, I am now studying archaeology and ancient history at university. Without stargate sg-1 (and the movie) i wouldn't have found my true function. Hazelnut <Hazelnut05@hotmail.com>
Manchester, England - Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 1:19 PM
I LOVED THE MOVIE AND THE SHOW I REALLY DIDNT KNOW THEY WERE TRYING TO GET RID OF DANIEL BUT IT SEEM TO ME THAT AS THE SHOW WENT ON HE WAS GETTING DUMBER. THEY MADE HIS INTELLIGENCE GO OUT THE WINDOW . THEY WENT I SAW TH TOOK HIM OFF THE SHOWI WENT CRAZY HOW COULD THEY DO THAT
ARE THEY REALLY THAT STUPID OR JUST TYING TO KIL THE SHOW
I AM 34 YRS OLDralph <ralpmg@aol.com>
bklyn, ny - Sunday, June 23, 2002, 2:15 AM
My interest in tv shows has always been more character driven than plot driven,though of course I'm not exactly going to love a show with consistently weak plot lines,ha; but my point,especially in regard to Stargate SG-1,is that it is the interaction and dynamic between principal characters that makes or breaks a show for me. And so it was with Stargate; the interaction between the four team members drew me in and captivated me and held my interest. I was especially drawn to the friendship between Jack and Daniel,and the horrible disservice done to that friendship as the series advanced was literally painful to witness on both a physical and emotional level. Then to have Daniel completely taken out of the equation and the audience (and apparently Jack,as well,after a perfunctory 'grieving period')expected to embrace this new Jonas character as though Daniel was so easily replaceable...it truly disgusts me. Why build in the audience this love for the core characters,gift us with the incredible,complex dynamic of the bonds between these unique individuals and then proceed to deconstruct each team member,to tear each down into unrecognizable and pathetic simulacra of what they originally were? Fictional characters or not,I had a genuine emotional investment in these characters' lives and friendships with one another,and it has been very painful and difficult to see what TPTB have decided the series needs to be about now. How can I believe that they ever really knew or cared about these characters,about the product they were putting out,if they can so radically transform everything the show stood for and epitomized in its first three seasons? I know people die tragically,relationships do change and evolve,life goes on...but come on,people. This is fantasy,this is the world of the stargate and advanced races and rich stores of imagination just waiting to be plundered; was it absolutely necessary to do to Daniel Jackson's irreplaceable character what was done to him,to transform Jack into some harsh,uncaring parody of the warm,vital human he used to be in his dealings with Daniel and the rest of the team? I was terribly,terribly disappointed with the sad way The X Files lost its focus several seasons back; to see that gaffe repeated with yet another series I cared so deeply about has made me extremely wary now of EVER giving my allegiance to another tv show. sharilyn <sharilyn2@earthlink.net>
Odessa, Tx/USA - Thursday, June 13, 2002, 2:03 PM
I am a 29-year-old woman on the verge of obtaining my graduate degree (in the teaching of creative writing, I might add). I also teach creative writing, all the way from grade school to college level. I'd never been a fantasy/sci-fi fan, preferring to read and write stories based around real life and to create characters that affected the audience in some profound way. But I started watching Stagate SG-1 with my husband, who is a certifiable "geek," a Trekkie from way back, a fan of alien movies and science fiction galore. I was initially attracted to the interaction of the characters on Stargate SG-1--I loved how they all related to one another. Then I rented the original movie and fell in love with the character of Daniel Jackson--the outcast, the geek who stood by his beliefs when everybody else thought he was nuts. What really intrigued me was the theory that aliens built the Egyptian pyramids. Ancient civilizations have always held a fascination for me--decoding a language, for example, or examining the artifacts left behind in a tomb. I think it's the storyteller in me, wanting to unearth the tales that have been hidden for so long.
And to see all that come to life on the screen!! My interest was peaked, big time. The possibility of discovering an ancient gate, a gate that can transport people--people just like you and me--to multiple worlds, where multiple races/cultures resided--was thrilling and mind-blowing. Imagine all the stories! Imagine putting all these ancient puzzle pieces together!
And it was done by a geek...NOT the military, who had the gate in their possession and a crappy translation of the cartouche. I still feel a surge of triumph at the scene when Dr. Jackson strides up to the chalkboard on the military base and erases all the mistakes somebody else made while trying to decode it. He came away with the phrase, "The Gateway to Heaven." And all the gunslingers could do was stare open-mouthed at him.
For me, Stargate SG-1 was not a far-fetched Sci-Fi series. It was about exploration and discovery. My thirst for knowledge was equal to that of Daniel Jackson, and I got to live vicariously through him as he gated to many different worlds. The show, for me, provided what my creative writing did--a trip to someplace new, someplace unexplored and unknown.
An added bonus was the incredible dyanmic between all four main characters. They had me laughing; they had me crying. They had me looking at the world a little differently. They were originally kind and compassionate to one another, headstrong and opinionated at times, emotional wrecks at others, doing what they had to do in order to survive. In short--they portrayed real life. But they all seemed to stay true to themselves, and to one another. It gave me hope for the future of humanity to know that O'Neill would NEVER leave one of his people behind. That honor still existed in warriors like Teal'c, who was fighting for a just cause: to free his people from slavery. That a woman could be brilliant and strong, but also beautiful and feminine, like Carter.
And that tolerance, curiosity, morality, and kindness existed in Daniel Jackson.
I looked forward to my new "trips" every week when Stargate SG-1 came on, when I heard that beloved sound of the chevrons locking and the gate being fired up. I couldn't wait to discover the latest culture and planet with my team.
Somewhere, somehow, that simple formula, that simple premise, was lost. And the series is no longer the same. The writers have too easily succumbed to cliche in terms of the characters, and they virtually stopped the space exploration when the whole NID-government conspiracy plot came into being. Why would I want to follow a bunch of guys in black, running around in mysterious ways, keeping top-secrets away from the public? If that was my desire, I could always go to the "X-Files" or read the latest theory on the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
And now, Daniel is gone. The original dynamic has been dissolved. Brad Wright mentioned in one of these articles that Daniel's story "arc" was over. To me, that is just plain laziness and lack of imagination on the writers' part. Here you have a multi-dimensional character, just bursting with different plotlines and avenues to follow, and you end up pasting him to the wall in the fifth season.
I feel the writers and producers have stopped caring about their story. They have left behind the brilliant originality of the Stargate in favor of winning over boys and men who have not yet grown out of the cowboy-and-Indian appetite for action. They dumbed down the entire show, which is an insult to my and many other's intelligence. They have stopped stimulating their brains and their creativity, and as a result have done the same to me.
The character of Daniel Jackson affected me in profound ways. He made me look at myself more closely, to challenge myself to be more humane, more tolerant, more forgiving. His friendship with O'Neill showed that it was OKAY for men to be close and caring toward one another. What wonderful role models for our children. What a shame to kill off those role models.
I miss the discovery and the wonder. I miss the friendship of the original team. I grieve that the series I once loved has morphed into the rest of the garbage spewed out by television these days.
You never know what you have until it's gone.
J. Lynn Kallio <jlynn1972@hotmail.com>
Berkeley, IL USA - Friday, May 24, 2002, 4:59 PM
I have to admit I was apprehensive about trying to articulate my feelings as eloquently as everyone on this site has already done, but I have so many strong emotions plaguing me that I think writing about this will help. Forgive me a thousand times if I ramble.
I only recently learned about Daniel. I have to admit that during the long, long Showtime hiatus, and maybe before that, I hadn't been online a lot. Now that I know we are going to lose the irreplaceable presence of Daniel Jackson, I keep saying to myself: "I should have known! I could have done something!" As if he is a real person. Am I completely crazy? When I found this site, I knew that I wasn't. But I'm jumping ahead.
Me, I'm only 21, and I started watching in syndication a couple years ago, when I had just moved into a college dorm and had no cable. I was alone, I was 1200 miles from home, I was frustrated with life in general. But the spirit and the heart of Stargate SG-1 gave me something to look forward to every week, and I was immediately hooked, sunk, entranced, and kicking myself for never watching it earlier.
Of course, I had seen the movie. I even remember the very weekend it came out, when I was 13. It was never my favorite, but my love of the character Daniel Jackson began with that film. Here you had what could have been your standard shoot-up-the-aliens action fare, and right in the middle of the muscle men with the military guns is this innocent, starry-eyed, geeky scientist brimming over with wonder and compassion. As one of those hormone-crazed chicks that producers must obviously dread, Daniel is the kind of man I want to see. As nothing more than an audience member, Daniel is the kind of character that makes everything more interesting.
Now, we all know the show isn't standard shoot-up-the-aliens fare. Or at least it didn't used to be. Richard Dean Anderson took a generic action hero and gave him warmth. humor, and a true 3-dimensional personality. Michael Shanks, god bless him, took a ridiculed geek and gave him back his honor and his courage. And Amanda Tapping and Chris Judge have both created marvelously indispensible characters that contribute just as much soul to our beloved team as the characters from the movie do.
Daniel is my favorite character, I admit, and I reserve the right to *have* a favorite character. I love the show, though. I love them all. Losing Daniel doesn't just take away that particular character, it takes away a big chunk of the other three as well, no matter how hard TPTB try and convince us that it doesn't mean anything, that "he just went out for groceries."
I won't rehash the problems with seasons 4 and 5--others, including MS, have said it better than me, but sufficed to say they've been chipping away at SG-1 with a pick ax for a while now, and this is the death blow at last.
It confuses me how they can't possibly realize it. They *have* to see what this will do to their show. For some reason, they know and they just don't care. I would kill to know what that reason is.
I'm not going to "boycott" season 6 . . . not yet. I'm even going to watch Meridian, though I know it will cause me a lot of pain. But afterwards, if I'm honest, I know that I'll probably lose interest in a show without Daniel. I don't much care for his "wallpaper" episodes as it is.
Yeah, I rambled. But lastly I just have to say that I have nothing but the utmost admiration for Michael Shanks. He is a true artist, and a brilliant actor with a hell of a lot of integrity. I'm adding my thanks, and my voice, to the very loud . . . VERY loud . . . chorus.
Bree <petdrusilla@aol.com>
Las Vegas, NV - Sunday, May 5, 2002, 3:11 AM
wow, i kno wot u mean...i watched it by myself...n i stil cant get over it...can u belive how many ppl are aginst D.J./M.S. leaving...im proud of stragate fans...sharing how dey feel...its fantastic how much dey care, n so do i of kors! LiYaNa
~LiYaNa~ <liyana_leo@msn.com>
Thursday, March 7, 2002, 3:56 PM
I’ve been a fan of Stargate since the movie. Loved it! When I heard they were turning it into a series, I’ll admit, I was apprehensive. They were going to wreck a perfectly wonderful story, I just knew it! However, being a Richard Dean fan I had to at least take a peak at what he was up to.Let me tell you, Jack drew me in (being a bit sarcastic by nature, myself, he just spoke to me...go figure), but it wasn’t long before all of my attention was focused on a certain archeologist with an undeniable passion for life, determination to live it no matter what was thrown at him and a tendency to step in "it" with both feet before he realized what kind of mess he was getting into. I know all of you know exactly what I’m talking about. He’s drawn in quite a few people, as this very web site will attest. Integrity, optimism and tenderness...amazingly rare qualities these days. He’s the kind of guy who makes you want to be a better person. I think that’s basically why we all adore him. I know it’s why I do.
Since that first episode I’ve watched the characters develop, grow, bond. From Season 1 to Season 3 it was a joy to turn on the television each week just to find out what was going to happen next.
Then came Season 4. A bit of a let down, but I was willing to give things a chance. After all, ebb and flow is what life is all about, right? After seeing what has happened in Season 5, however, I have only one question...what on Earth (or any other planet for that matter) are they thinking? How could TPTB so completely miss what is so obvious to the rest of us? In all the polls Daniel stands out as the favorite over every other character by several percentage points. Shanks has an on-line fan base (monstrous would not be an overstatement here) that rivals those of big name actors. (Sorry, Michael, but you’re not one of those yet....YET.) Why then, would they let him go???
I haven’t seen Meridian yet because I’m one of the unfortunate few who have to put up with the nightmare that is Showtime (totally different topic that doesn’t deserve to take up space here), but I’ve been "listening" to the comments that are flying around in cyberspace about it. While I’ll admit, it is a totally fitting "end" for Daniel...something that follows the character very well, I’m profoundly sorry to see him go. I find myself among the many viewers who are honestly surprised by the amount of emotion his leaving stirs up.
I also want to make it known that I’m disgusted with the fact that TPTB weren’t satisfied enough with having a fan base of adult woman that they decided to obliterate the show in favor of completely altering the viewer demographic. Let’s face it, Daniel leaving will completely change the way the team (SG-1) functions. The way they relate to one another will be undeniably different without him and as a result, so will the show. TPTB have lost viewers, alienated loyal fans and have created a whirlwind of hostility that I hope they feel for a long time to come, all in favor of changing the direction of the show so that it caters to a more “acceptable” audience. OK, so we weren’t what they had expected their fans to look like. Fans are fans. Ratings are ratings. Why is it that women are deemed not good enough? What does it matter who’s watching as long as we’re watching?
I could see the not so subtle changes they tried to make by introducing Tok’ra Barbie. They wanted more testosterone in their viewing audience. I figured they’d realize soon enough that we didn’t appreciate it and drop it. Obviously that hasn’t happened. If they’re willing to drop one of the main characters (and the Favored One at that) and disturb a balance between the rest of the team that had once worked so well, then obviously the gender of the viewer is more important to them than I’d realized. And before you guys out there get all up in arms, that isn’t a slam toward you. It actually has nothing to do with you at all. It has to do with a closed minded attitude that apparently still lives and breathes in L.A. that women watch daytime drama and men watch sci fi and that’s the way it should be. If women like a science fiction show than obviously someone is doing something horribly wrong.
I love the characters. I love the actors, but the people pulling the strings, insulting us all with the insinuations that their actions have stated loudly and clearly, I can live without. I hope for the sake of the many fans involved in this endeavor that we’re able to get Daniel back in his rightful place, even if only for one more season. I hope for TPTB’s sake that they wake up and smell the mocha and join the rest of us in reality!
This isn’t just about a television show or a favorite character and for anyone reading this board who thinks it is…who thinks that we’re just a bunch of obsessed, hysterical woman who’ve lost touch with reality…maybe you should take another look at WHY the show was changed in the first place. There was a reason behind the alterations that started this mess and there was an attitude behind that reason. I can’t say whether insulting the loyal viewers of the show was intentional or unconscious, but I would like to point out that if it wasn’t intended….why are they still refusing to fix it?
Panther <seavan@mybc.com>
Seattle, Washington/USA - Thursday, February 28, 2002, 2:19 PM
I have never been more upset as I am know. I just found out. Daniel is the one person that can’t be taken off the show.. I have seen the move, and ever show. I hate Showtime, bit SG-1 is there so am I. I hope when they do the move the do it better then when Star Track brought in the New Genaration.I can’t even think what the new crew is going to be like.
Michael, thank you for making SG-1 What it is today. You will be missed.
Traci Holmes <Tholmesla>
Winnetka, CA - Tuesday, February 19, 2002, 5:08 PM
I now have the frist half of season # 4 in syndication and throughout the 3 1/2 years since watching and taping StarGate SG-1 I have a lot a of favorite episodes but I can truly say my all time favorites were the ones that featured the close bond between the four main characters of Daniel, Jack, Sam and Teal’c.And the great preformances by Micheal Shanks in LEGACY, FOREVER IN A DAY, HOLIDAY, NEED, THE GAMEKEEPER, CHILDERN OF THE gods and many others that made me laugh and cry including his outstanding gueststarring role on ANDROMEDA. His conibution wss and still is a wonderful asset to StarGate SG-1.He has wonderful talents as an actor and playing Daniel Jackson was one of them. It’s a shame those never took the time to see that .I WANT to see Micheal back on the show. If not I WILL NOT WASTE MY TIME OR ENEGRY WATCHING # 6 AND IF HE IS NOT IN THE NEW MOVIE I WILL NOT GO SEE IT. I used to be a loyal fan of StarGate SG-1 but not anymore. And I have one final note to say on this matter THAT WHOLE Sam and Jack ROMANCE IDEA THAT CAME OUT ON THE SHOW IT TOTALLY DESTORYED THE TEAM BOND BETWEEN SG-1 FOREVER Micheal PLEASE!!!! PLEASE!!!! PLEASE!!!! COME BACK to StarGate SG-1.It’s not worth watching when you’re not in it.^*Sandra D. Mc.donald <deem31@webtv.net>
lancaster , Pennsylvania - Tuesday, January 8, 2002, 10:35 AM
I am proud to say I am a big fan og STARGATE SG1 ever created.
THIS IS MY OWN FEELING ON THIS MATTER.I DON’T PRETEND TO
SEAK FOR ANY ONE ELSE.I will watch every episode (missing Daniel) fom now on.
Stargate was different, it combined mythology, history, fanatsy and scifi with interesting characters and facinating stories (most of them
could have been much longer and more complex if it weren’t for the restriction of TV programming).
STARGATE SG1 thanking them for a wonderful series and wishing them best of luck and love for the futre, and truely speaking from my heart i necver share my feelings ito any body
it’s hard to share feelings with some one, because i’m a very stubben person who has alot of anger in her, but i’m very nice deep down, but for STARGATE i always share my thoughts, my feelings and anyhting
because STARGATE is something that’s keeps my alive!!! xxxxxxxxxxx TO STARGATE xxxxxxxxxxxxGhazala <akhtarghazala>
Huddersfield, England - Monday, February 18, 2002, 9:11 AM
Um...I’m not really sure where to put this. I don’t really know the whole story behind this, and if I’m wrong, please e-mail me to put me straight, but surely if Micheal Shanks wants to leave the show, we’d better respect his wishes, right? I was under the impression that he wanted to leave the show, but will have guest appearances, and will be in the film. Anyway, season 6 is the last season. Ok, I love Daniel Jackson just as much as the rest of you, don’t get me wrong, but if Micheal Shanks wants to go, then let him go. Kit <snow_star@email.com>
U.K. - Saturday, January 5, 2002, 6:22 PM
I was drawn into Stargate SG-1 last year when I saw the episode Legacy in syndication. I was totally hooked from that moment. As I watched more episodes in reruns, I was so happy. Finally a new and different science fiction show for me to enjoy. A show about a team of diverse people working together to explore the universe. Best of all, the civilian scientist--Dr. Daniel Jackson--wasn’t presented as a geek but rather a valued member of a team. His opinion mattered. I saw the movie later and discovered that Daniel Jackson was the hero. What a refreshing change! A hero who was smart and used that intelligence to solve problems. How nice and refreshing. When my mom was diagnosed with cancer later in the spring, the DVD episodes of Season 1 got me through some rough moments. I actually went out and bought a DVD player simply for the Stargate eps. They are still the only DVDs I own and have watched. When I heard that the Sci Fi Channel was picking up Season 6, I was even more excited. Now I could actually see the season in season. I was preparing to call my cable channel to add Sci Fi to my cable package just so I could watch Stargate SG-1. However, when I found out Daniel Jackson wasn’t going to be a part of Season 6, that the premise of the show would be more focused on conspiracy than exploration, I decided I would save my money. The sad thing is that now I don’t even get too upset if I miss the Season 4 eps now in syndication on my local station. I watch my season 1 DVDs, will probably get season 2 DVDs and watch tapes of season 3. I can get the rest of my Stargate SG-1 fixes from the friends I’ve made in the fandom.
For the record, I’m a almost 40 single professional woman with a masters degree in education. Babs <baeckknit@aol.com>
Hershey, PA USA - Friday, January 4, 2002, 7:47 PM
I’ve been a fan of Stargate since seeing the movie in it’s original cinematic debut. Even then, while it was the intriguing story line that drew me to the movie, it was the Jack/Daniel relationship that stuck with me afterwards. It’s not often that a science fiction movie has such richly drawn characters.
I stumbled upon the pilot for Stargate SG1 and was delighted with what I saw there. While the casting changes were a surprise, to my delight they worked and worked well. The tantalizing tidbits of information about Jack and Daniel that were scripted into Children of the Gods only added to my fascination with these two characters.
While it’s often been difficult if not impossible to find Stargate SG1 on a regular basis in my tv viewing area, I’d go out of my way to watch it where ever and when ever I could. As a long time science fiction fan in all mediums I was pleased with the direction of the series and the characterizations. Sam and Teal’c became a welcome addition to the Jack/Daniel dynamic, as did Hammond and Janet. Still, it was Jack and Daniel that drew my interest, that kept me coming back even after bad episodes, ill devised character additions or subtractions and bizarre minor plot lines.
The abscence of the Daniel Jackson character will no doubt lessen my desire to watch the show. I shall endeavour to watch, but can make no promises. Particularly, if the episodes sans Daniel are written in such a manner as to ignore his existence and his involvement with the Stargate program. That would make a mockery of everything that has come before and demean the relationship that formed the crux of the show.
I realize that no one can force Micheal Shanks to work on Stargate. I realize that it’s necessary to set up the new spin off series. However, I find it apalling that it appears to be alright to sell the fans of the show, the fans who kept the show on the air for five seasons and then fought hard to get a sixth season, down the river. It’s obvious even the powers that be are uncertain about the course they are planning to take as they’ve only signed the new guy for four or five episodes. Are they planning to open a revolving door and usher a new guest star in every few weeks and thereby keep the fans happy. I don’t think so.
There would never have been a Stargate with out Daniel Jackson. There is no SG1 without Daniel Jackson. Stacey Bilotta <fbilotta2@cogeco.ca>
St. Catharines, Ontario - Friday, January 4, 2002, 3:42 PM
I started watching Stargate SG-1 because of how much I enjoyed the movie. I looked forward to seeing where the show would be going with the Stargate program, but mostly I tuned in to watch Jack and Daniel. I loved the characters and the way they interacted in the movie. I hoped that same chemistry would be there on the show between Richard Dean Anderson and Michael Shanks. I wasn't disappointed. I like Sam and Teal'c, but I love Daniel and Jack. They are what keeps drawing me back to the show. I can't imagine it without both of them. Daniel is the heart of the team, the conscious. The one who reminds them to not be cold, hard, military machines, but rather human beings. How many times has he pulled them back from a military decision that might have made them as bad as the enemy by reminding them that defeats the whole purpose of their mission. What good are they to anyone if they will go to 'any means necessary' to win, if they give up their humanity. The writers constantly use him to bring humanity to the show. I hate to see that lost. No one could replace his character. I hate to see how it has been diminished over the years and how he has been treated as a non entity sometimes. I under stand why Mr. Shanks wanted to leave and am saddened by it. He tried to voice his concerns and see if TPTB would be willing to make some changes. No one really listened to him or adequately tried to help expand his character. Given that he felt the need to leave the show. I hate that and I'm honestly not sure how I will feel about his replacement. I'm not even sure if I want to give them a chance. Characters leaving and new ones being introduced can be the death of a show, because people often don't want their favorite characters leave. I don't want Daniel to be gone. I'm not sure if this will do any good, but I'm willing to at least try. I'm a 28 year old female who loves this show. My mother is as big a fan of it as I am, she's 54, and Daniel is her favorite character as well. Jack coming in second, just like me. Both of us are dubious as to what the show will be like without Danny and as to whether or not we will watch it after he's gone.Clio <lady_c74@yahoo.com>
TX USA - Thursday, January 3, 2002, 10:43 PM
I am a 50 year old professional woman. I have been a fan of Stargate since it began as a movie in 1994. I was skeptical when it was first turned into a Showtime series and I didn't know if I would be able to accept the premise of Col. Jack O'Neill and Dr. Daniel Jackson continuing on with new actors. Since I had also been a solid fan of MacGyver and Richard Dean Anderson the choice was made for me and I am very glad that I tuned in. Not only has Richard Dean Anderson brought us a wonderful, full and entertaining Jack but Michael Shanks has managed to continue with James Spader's wonderful Daniel and then bring a depth and perfect evolution to Daniel with his own unique and considerable talent which has enriched the show and endeared him to all of his many fans. On top of this, the addition of Sam and Teal'c have created the best chemistry that I have ever experience in a team on the small screen or the big screen. The choice of supporting cast with Don Davis, and Teryl Rothery as well as all the other peripheral characters and the best Sci Fi writing has given all of us fans a rich, wonderful and thoroughly enjoyable experience. This is a solid gold team and cast!!! I have enjoyed EVERY episode!!! However, I am now very saddened to hear that Michael Shanks (and Dr. Daniel Jackson) will be leaving and that he will have little or no part in the last season and the possible movie. Without Daniel (Michael)on the SG1 team the chemistry will be terribly incomplete and I truly do not feel that any replacement OR addition can fill this void! This story began with Jack and Daniel. They worked together to bring us Stargate and Stargate SG1. Jack and Daniel must continue with the story line and Richard Dean Anderson and Michael Shanks have both become so synonymous with their characters that it will be very difficult for me to continue watching the show without Daniel(Michael) together with the SG1 team continuing the wonderful characters and relationships that we have seen in the beginning of the show's history. I am very happy to have had Stargate SG1 to enjoy for the past 5 years and I am hoping that I will be able to enjoy them, together as they should be, for Season 6.sharyn <sharyn@shadowmyst.com>
Centereach, NY USA - Thursday, January 3, 2002, 10:32 PM
I started watching Stargate when the TV series first aired; I was captivated immediately. It combined history, mythology, and space exploration in a way I found fascinating, but the thing that kept me coming back was Daniel, and the friendship between Daniel and Jack. I loved the team of the main 4 also. Then they turned Sam into Superwoman, messed with the continuity, basically all but dumped Daniel and started the whole Sam/Jack thing. Not to mention the dreadful conspiracy storylines-if I wanted to watch a cheesy remake of the X-files, I wouldn't have tuned in to watch Stargate!! Makes me wonder if someone of TPTB isn't being paid by someone to ruin the show - if so, they've done an excellent job of trashing it. With Michael Shanks going, the show has now lost all redeeming value completely. When he leaves, that will be the last episode I'll watch. Don't get me wrong, the other actors are great but the writing and the focus of the show is crap, and the best actors in the world can't make a heap of garbage into anything but a heap of garbage.Lisa <blindwolf00@yahoo.com
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Lebanon, MO USA - Thursday, January 3, 2002, 9:48 PM
Although I did watch the show rather casually at first and because of being a fan of the movie, I really didn't become a "die-hard" fan until mid-third season. I really, really liked Michael Shanks' hair cut for one!:) But, I was at a rather low point in my life. I was still recovering physically/mentally over my throat/thyroid-cancer surgery, and I was in a very high stress (very uncomfortable) job. Stargate SG-1, Jack and Daniel became my saviors that year! The show became the perfect and most enjoyable distraction from real life. The characters and the team interaction was just magical!:) Thank you Michael Shanks! And, thank you Stargate SG-1!
Hall <earlyprimaryteacher@yahoo.com
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Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, January 3, 2002, 9:47 PM
I'm a seventeen-year-old girl from Germany. So in a way I'm 'someone who doesn't matters'. When episodes air in Germany they've been shown in the USA one year ago. At this point of time the directors doesn't care if it is watched. Sure they think it's good that Stargate: Sg-1 is popular in Germany, but it's not like they would care if it wasn't. I started to watch Stargate:Sg-1 in early season 3, and until now I've seen nearly every episode. Before I started watchin it I watched The X-Files, Star Trek (Voyager and The Next Generation), occasinally Sliders and SeaQuest. At my age, people are looking for role models and I found them in this series. Marita in The X-Files. B'Elanna in Voyager. Beverly in Next Generation. Wade in Sliders. And Wendy in SeaQuest. Then came Stargate. I had seen the movie and at the end I was like: Hey, you can't let it end now, I want to know more about Jack and Daniel and Shau're. When I watched the series I was happy, because I had the chance to get to know more about them. I got to know the wonderful friendship between the characters. Episodes like 'There but for the grace of god' 'Holiday' or 'The Tok'ra' became my favorite episodes. Shortly before the beginning of season 4 in Germany I started to search the internet for sites about Stargate. I read fanfiction. I joined the DanandJan-list and the SG1-Rebellion-list. Stargate got me interested in history and things like time travel and alternate universes. I hate physics, but I like to think about these things. Unlike many other people I honestls liked season 4. Not every episode, but for example 'The light', '2010' and 'Prodgidy'. I like the story of these episodes. I don't like the character developement in them. At some point Daniel and Jack stopped being best friends. Okay, I can live with that, that happens everywhere. Sam and Daniel stopped being 'scientist buddys'. I always thought their realtiopnship was unique, and I'm even a slight Sam/Daniel-shipper. What bothered me the most in season 4 was the character developement of Janet Fraiser. There was none. She's my favorite character in Stargate (talking about role models), and she appeared in most episodes, but the only thing we know about her is her job, that she has adopted Cassie, thet she's Sam's friend and that she's divorced. And that after four seasons. She would've made a great contibution to the team, but lately there didn't seem to be something like a team. The series was always about the characters and other worlds. If I want to watch something about consiracies I go watch The X-Files.If I want to watch romances I go to the cinema. I'm a shipper, yes, but Daniel/Janet and I like WoO, but certainly not becauseof the kiss. I want to see episodes like 'Fire&Water' and 'Forever in a day'. I want to see character interaction. I want to see other worlds, get to know something about ancient cultures for I'm interested in them. I want to see the Tok'ra, the Nox, the Goa'uld, the Tollan. I'm not a stupid teenager, who wants action and romance. I'm not a male who wants to see Tok'ra spice (Anise/Freya). I'm not saying that the new episodes are bad. Stargate still has a great influence on my life, and I'll continue to watch it. Series change. But please, don't change Stargate into a series I don't recognize any more. Because then it'll be like Voyager and The X-Files. Stargate deserves more than that.Rebecca <EilanofAlbion@gmx.net>
Duisburg, Germany - Thursday, January 3, 2002, 2:23 PM
Those of us who wrote to MGM & Showtime in an effort to save Season 6 have wished something back from the dead and now have it we will, but changed unexpectedly into a Daniel Jackson-free travesty. I knew better than to give voice to my support for this unusual program, thinking to make a difference. TV as a genre has some bright flames. But they often succumb to the need for more. More numbers. More profits. Enough is never enough. Quality doesn't have staying power. It doesn't draw the lionized demographics of the day. Archaeology? The monuments of prior man don't sell products. Anthropology? Go study the bones in your museums. Communication, caring, friendship? Don't go there. Or if you did, STOP! Alien cultures? Ignore them and they may eventually go away. Just follow the formula: Add puffy lips and tight little costumes. Add them again. And again. Add more politics and conspiracy. Add a name or two from another dead show and let their characters harass ad nauseam. Stir. Repeat. But they also say, make your voice heard. So I tried. I am not trying now. I am sending a statement of consternation at the impending turn of events and a message of sympathy for all of you out there who may feel the same. Sure, it's just a show, but it's important because it transports us out of our reality and entertains in the same way a good book will transport and entertain. How can there be a Stargate without Daniel Jackson, the central character and focal point for the whole saga? As one of the producers or creative powers behind bringing this wonderful story from film to TV, how can you now drive off the actor who has played this character with so much heart? Did you not think, perhaps, that he would care enough about his own art to walk away? Why have you driven him to this difficult choice? For the record, I'm in the over 50 demographic. I'm a manager at a publishing company and I am studying anthropology to finish a B.A. I started years ago, before family and job concerns took precedence. I've edited textbooks on anthropology and on Greek and medieval history. I also know that I've fallen out of TV's most-wanted audience segment, although I cannot quite fathom why: our age group has the most income. I came to SG1 a bit late: loved the movie, but never found time for the show although my daughter reminded me every chance she got that SG1 had MacGyver ("You LOVE MacGyver") and Egyptology ("You LIKE Egypt") and Stargate ("You LIKED Stargate") and an archaeologist ("it has Daniel Jackson"). What? It has James Spader? ("No, someone else, but it's the same character"). I got trapped one night when I saw "Fire & Water"--what on earth had I been passing up? I started to watch. I was entranced. Mesmerized. I never missed an episode. I watched back episodes. I watched Children of the Gods. Michael Shanks WAS Daniel Jackson. Hieroglyphics. Babylon. Norse gods. Folklore and Mythology. Damon and Pythias in Jack and Daniel--or maybe Starsky and Hutch. This was on television? No way. But the show has been a disappointment now since the start of Season 4. To be completely objective, I'd have to say that the show has always had some problems, at least to my way of thinking. Some of the sequences have been strangely cold and unemotional, and the actors seem to have been restricted from physical contact, even as far back as Legacy (gee, people are killed, barely rescued, badly jarred, or weeping in corners--and everyone just stands lamely around looking into space, wow, how realistic and creative!). But it wasn't always like that, so I shrugged it off. Going back even further: why was Sam written from day one as a sort of all-powerful female OZ, the near-discoverer of the Stargate? Daniel Jackson, what the heck, he just got it accidentally! Sam was really on it first! Sam can hold her own with Jack as well in terms of her military background and abilities? And now she is a Major, too? Look out, Colonel, you could get flattened. Honestly, I love Amanda Tapping, she really is great in the role, but why focus so long, hard, and often on Sam? The story was always about Daniel first, and about the quirky and unlikely friendship between Jack and Daniel a close second. It was that way in the movie and it certainly started out that way in the series. That "they don't know what to do with me" sequence grabs at your heart if you have any feelings at all. Fastforward to Season 4. I was horrified at what I saw in WOO and in The Other Side (what happened to Jack? is he a clone? infested by a snake? why is he so angry at Daniel? Jack would never speak to Daniel like that.) And still worse: Divide & Conquer. What have we here? Scully and Mulder? Is this an effort to grab the lost X-Files audience? And what on earth is it with Anise? Enough of her already. What happened to Jack? He's become so dense, so angry, so impatient. OK, I read somewhere that the character was deliberately dumbed down to make him less heroic. Why? Jack is a brilliant strategist, a survivor, a guy with a sense of humor and an outrageous disrespect for the trappings of military protocol, the heart of a marshmallow, and a lot of love and understanding for kids, strays, and dogs. Why does he need to be dumb? OK, we were given "The First Ones" and "The Light" but I recently rewatched some Season 1 episodes: Fire & Water, Cold Lazarus, The Torment of Tantalus--with its wondeful visual echoes of the Rosetta stone. Those just FELT different, somehow. Better. So now Season 6 will focus on all that deadly boring military and government stuff. Oh, yay, let's all line up each week to be reminded of budgets, quarterly reports, and schedules. Just like being at work. Hammond was doing great, keeping Jack in line and playing nicely with the President and the Stargate. Why do we need more politics and more controls? We know what it would really be like out there if the Air Force had a Stargate. Really, we do. We don't need to be reminded with a sledgehammer. And honestly now, what will happen to Teal'c? Another terrific character relegated to window dressing so that we can concentrate on new characters? Why not keep the characters we have and WORK with them? Develop them. Make them interact with each other? To top it all off, I read what RDA said in a recent Cult Times interview about how the loss of Daniel will be played. Apparently not much emoting will be done by all and sundry. How odd. And yet, they were all crushed at DJ's apparent demise in F&W, especially Jack. And RDA is the one who said in more than one interview that he enjoyed his scenes with Michael so much because of how well they played off each other. Whatever. I'm looking for a different show. One with a consistent vision. Hey, I'm a Tolkien fan. Look: true art does sell! You just have to have faith in your vision, like Peter Jackson. Guess the SG1 PTBs lost that vision--they really had it for a while and it was nice while it lasted. TV is a business, and art, heart, and quality can't count where money is concerned. The good stuff eventully goes away--for SG1 it apparently already did. I watched this show for its anthropology and archaeology, for its myth and legend, and for the Daniel and Jack dynamic. And I absolutely love Teal'c, who reminds me of Spock. The possibilities around Teal'c storylines are endless but they have barely been explored. I miss the show already. Same way I miss Northern Exposure. Great team acting, great interrelationships, great setting. Simple stories about good people of different backgrounds creating their lives in a strange environment. No conspiracy, no clutter. It was great. It died when Joel left. They replaced him, but it died just the same. Guess I'll climb into my rocking chair and read my back issues of Archaeology and National Geographic now.Peggy <yrye3stars@aol.com>
NY USA - Wednesday, January 2, 2002, 3:00 AM
I came into Stargate SG-1 fandom gradually; at first it used to be something I'd watch with my sister during the summer holidays in the morning on T4, as some kind of sister-bonding- although I was conscientious of the fact that we both *really*, **really** liked it. But it wasn't until I'd started a Saturday job at WHSmith that I got really into it- I started buying the videos, then backordering S1 videos and tracking down the movie because I liked it so much. And then I turned to the Internet to find out more about them- but at that point,(despite the fact I wrote my own) I didn't even know what fanfiction and all that jazz was- until I innocently stumbled onto a fansite, and then, from there, Heliopolis. It's all been uphill from there; plus, SG-1 gives me a chance to bond with my younger sister. There's only a year's difference, but we don't usually do anything together- unless I buy a Stargate or Buffy video- in which case, we'll spend hours together, talking about the shows.
Deborah Louise Gough <littlemissarty@hotmail.com>
Jersey, Channel Islands, UK - Tuesday, January 1, 2002, 3:33 PM
when the series started, though at first I had trouble seeing my beloved Richard Dean Anderson as Jack - he's so unlike Kurt R. But that didn't last long. I love everything RDA has done. But I feel so betrayed by the marginalization of Daniel. Don't get me wrong, the TEAM is wonderful!! I love each one of them. However, Sam's character has become a superwoman, stronger than the men, smarter than the men, knowing more about everything then the men. If you've heard of a 'Mary Sue,' she is 'Mary Sam.' I really love the idea of a stargate. But without the Daniel character it's going to be just another military Sci-Fi series. A passageway between planets is the heart of Stargate, but the interactions and friendship between Jack and Daniel is the soul of Stargate. When he leaves, I probably will too.Melodi Rayl <melrayl@juno.com>
Springfield, MO USA - Monday, December 31, 2001, 5:35 PM
Hello: I came to SG1 cause I was following the career of Richard Dean Anderson and because I liked the movie. Season One had it's rocky moments, but it had cast chemistry that was amazing from the big 4 right on down to the villians and bit players. No one could pout like Apophis and no one could could make you believe in his sense of wonder like Daniel Jackson could. And, as one of the *not the Seven of Nine* demographic, I found both Samantha Carter and Janet Frazier refreshingly real and interesting female characters..woman I could picture myself hanging out with and that I could talk to. They felt like friends and that is the best compliment you can give any created character. On the upside, Carter and Janet have stayed interesting and likable characters. Everything else went down hill. In fairness, it's tough to write for all the audience you have and alot of people have their fingers in the pot so to speak, from the big guys at MGM to the US Airforce LOL...and everyone with their own agenda about what a good story or demographics grabbing story should be. But, in the end, it should ultimately be the fans you do have and have been loyal to the show since day one who matter the most. Here is what this day one loyal fan thought you wasted our time with: The Col. Simmons *hidden agenda* stuff. It's not that JDL isn't a good actor, but the storyline went nowhere fast, didn't hold the attention and you already had the Sen. Kinsey thing going which was more than enough in that element. The NID stuff. Ok Maybourne is a hoot and we like him, but the conspircy stuff was annoying especially when SG1 had already proven that they need to focus on the threat and that *stealing *technology can get them in big trouble with enemies they can't handle. No more *Carter's Kiss of Death*! Less of subsituting smirky grins, throwaway oneliners and recycled MacGyver history for real character developement of Jack O'Neill. He's what you could have done to hold our attention: More stories about fighting the Goa'uld. More stories sprung from mythology and fairytales. Oh the stuff you could have done with say Snowhite or Beauty and the Beast. More real and creative character growth for Jack and his interaction with the others. A whole episode that dealt with the apparent hostility between he and Daniel that would explain and resolve it would have been wonderful. Bring back Ambassador Joe! Redemption of Col. Makepeace! Get back to exploring the galaxy. Most of all, get back to really writing for Dr. Daniel Jackson and make our team whole again and send them off to entertain us like they did before. MarlaMarla (GateAngel) <gateangel@angelfire.com>
USA - Monday, December 31, 2001, 10:11 AM
Well, I'm afraid I'm not exactly your "dream" viewer either. I'm 40, and a professional woman with advanced degrees. I'm not really what I would consider a sci-fi fan (despite my love of Stargate SG-1 and The X-Files, which I'll go into a bit more in a minute); I've never been a big reader of the genre and I don't automatically line up for the new special effects epic at the multiplex. Even so, I'm a fan of the show. I got hooked on Stargate SG-1 quite recently. I'd been watching season three on and off in syndication, but never really gotten "into it". Never having seen the film and knowing nothing of the show's history, I found myself confused by the series more often than not. Imagine seeing "Maternal Instinct" and knowing nothing of Sha'uri or the Harsesis and I think you'll get a feel for what I mean. Still, I was drawn to the four main characters and their relationships, most especially that between Daniel and Jack. I was (and still am) fascinated by the way these two very different men had become and managed to stay friends. When the first season came out on DVD, I decided to take the plunge and see this thing from the beginning (yes, I too have a disposable income). Wow. I watched the entire five disc set in a matter of days. Then, I went out and bought the film as well. Stargate had me, big time. I went on the web to find out more about the show, I downloaded episodes, read essays and articles, joined mailing lists. I had only ever done this kind of "fandom" thing once before--for The X-Files. Sadly, that show is now a shadow of its former self. With Mulder gone, the main reason I'd come to love the series--the Mulder/Scully dynamic--had disappeared as well. Nowadays, I can't stand to even watch the show. Seeing it as it stands now only reminds me what it once was. Imagine my chagrin when I discovered Stargate SG-1 was on a similar course. I hadn't even been a full-out fan (complete with Showtime, by this point) a month when I heard the news that Michael Shanks was leaving. At first, while saddened, I wished the actor well. As a fan, it was disappointing, but if Michael felt he needed to pursue other opportunities, good luck and God bless. Then, I started seeing more of season five. And season four began running in syndication. And I began hearing rumblings about how Michael (and CJ, for that matter) had been marginalized in recent seasons, and that the real reason Michael wanted out was because he felt there was no longer a place for him on the show. Having seen most of the last two seasons now, I can see where he's coming from. And yet, I don't understand how such a thing could have been allowed to happen. It's so obvious to me, someone who came into this venture with no preconceived knowledge of the movie, the television program or any of its stars (with the exception of Richard Dean Anderson), that the relationship between Jack and Daniel is the heart of the show. In fact, given that the movie is really about Daniel's journey (more so than Jack's), I believe it could be argued that Daniel should in many ways be the focus of the series. This viewpoint is outlined on this site far more brilliantly (and with more detail) than I could ever manage. Suffice it to say, it's unfathomable to me how this character was left to languish. He's key. His relationship to Jack (as best friend, surrogate son, conscience, foil--whatever your interpretation) is key. The team itself is key. Recently, one of the show's producers was quoted as saying there were a limited number of storylines available in sci-fi (I'm paraphrasing here, so please bear with me). He may have a point. Speaking only for myself, I've read a lot of books and I've seen a lot of movies and TV shows. You've got to work pretty hard to surprise me with a plot point. It's a heck of a lot easier to dazzle me with emotion, with one true moment between friends, enemies or even an epiphany of one. Stargate SG-1 used to know how to do that. Two such instances come to mind in the pilot alone: Daniel's "They don't know what to do with me, and I don't know what to do with myself." Jack's "I think in her heart she forgave me for what happened to our kid. She just...couldn't forget...I'm the opposite. I'll never forgive myself. But sometimes I can forget. Sometimes." Both these moments touched something in me that had nothing to do with space travel or shooting zat guns. And made me want to come back for more. Don't get me wrong--a little action can be fun too. But it's hollow without fully fleshed-out characters having those adventures. Why am I signing this guestbook? I guess I'm hoping against hope that my concerns and the concerns of those responsible for this wonderful website will be somehow addressed by TPTB. I know it's too late to do anything about Daniel Jackson being written out. Yet maybe just maybe the writers will come up with a way for him to return (to visit, if nothing else). At the very least, I would urge them to deal with his loss. Given Daniel's importance in the show's history, I don't see how they can do otherwise. But then...I've been wrong about this kind of thing before. IsabellaIsabella <isabellarosa@hotmail.com>
Chicago, IL USA - Sunday, December 30, 2001, 9:48 PM
Stargate was different, it combined mythology, history, fanatsy and scifi with interesting characters and facinating stories (most of them could have been much longer and more complex if it weren't for the restriction of TV programming).It has now become a less original version of X-files and all those other wanna-be programs. I am sorry that it has lost is drive and adventure and enthusiasm and opted to be same old same old. Who wants to see another conspiracy theory program when there is a whole universe out there to explore...........
Jill <jillie168@yahoo.com.au>
Sydney, NSW Australia - Sunday, December 30, 2001, 9:01 PM
what struck me first? Daniel. Pure and simple. when they stepped back through that gate onto Abydos and he was there Michael Shanks portraying a wonderful Daniel Jackson. to lose him is more than I can bear to think about right now.
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UK - Sunday, December 30, 2001, 2:37 PM
To: TPTB Hi, I'm someone else that doesn't seem to matter: 46, professional, disposable income galore, intelligent (graduate in history, with honours), female (all unfortunately, I would guess, from your POV) and now I can add to that list 'grieving', because the programme that at its very best can be moving, exciting, challenging, imaginative, intellectually stimulating and downright all-round excellent is being systematically lobotimised. In plain English, dumbed down. Filleted, if you will. Ruined would probably not be too blunt. You guys had a great thing going there - travel to other worlds with no time lag (a lot of SF writers would probably have killed to come up with such a neat device), a team (NB I did say TEAM, but more of that later) of attractive characters, a brilliant premise (that the ancient gods were actually alien), a wonderful mythology to explore and exploit, a chance to get a message across without preaching, a commitment to excellence that was very apparent in the first three series, terrific special effects... quite a list, in anybody's estimation. The first three series? In the main, ace. Absolutely ace. A couple of turkeys, I'll grant you, but your strike rate was great. Way better than average. And it sucked me in, a rabid Trekker who thought NOTHING could even equal my preferred fandom, much less exceed it. I LOVED this series, the premise, the characters, their interactions. As I say, you had a great thing going there. What a shame you decided to shoot yourselves in the foot. Poor writing, derivative storylines, poor characterisation, spurious plot arcs, poor continuity... you poor things! But hey, on the plus side, we got Anise, supposed UST, sidelined Daniel (lucky us!), za'tarc thingies, SuperSam, more Anise - anyone notice a touch of irony here? And now the icing on the cake - no more Daniel. Not just sidelined, but out. All the way out. By all accounts, pushed out. Whatever happened to the team? Hel-lo, remember the TEAM? The idea of the ensemble show that was so attractive to s punters in the early days? The cast that was so meticulously assembled to give across the board appeal? The show where each of the characters would get a chance to shine, to pull together, to act like normal human beings in an abnormal universe? Well, I object to the direction the show is taking. I actually object very strongly to certain plot aspects of it, the whole cliched Sam/Jack romance nonsense and most notably to the earth based conspiracy arc. I object to Daniel and Teal'c becoming set decorations. I object to the fact that the stargate is apparently out of action for long perods of time, at least if what we've seen in the UK of S5 is anything to go by. And I'm rapidly losing interest: what's more, unless there is a change of heart, I'll be registering my objections with my index finger on the 'off' button. The X-Files has done it all before, and has done it better. A once-fine series has again been sacrificed on the altar of what you think you want, rather than what you have, which is a great cross-section of fans of all ages, from kids to pensioners, the bulk of whom have money to fling your way, or know someone who does, and who would be delighted to do the flinging IF you would actually listen to what they want. Couldn't you PLEASE do something to salvage this sorry mess? But then, I doubt any plea of mine will make any significant difference, because I'm one of the ones who don't matter. I'm sorry, TPTB, I don't take kindly to being discounted, I'm too used to being feted for my buying power to take very kindly to that. Although I don't seriously expect you to sit up and take notice, after all I'm WAY outside your preferred demographic.Elaine (not that one, the other one)
Edinburgh, Scotland - Saturday, December 29, 2001, 8:05 PM
I'm a divorced gal, age 27, have my BS in GeoChem from a very geeky school, work as a webmaster and sysadmin, and discovered SG-1 last year with much enthusiasm. I even went down to the San Diego Comicon to hand-deliver a thank you note to Michael Shanks (I'd mailed the rest). I don't watch Star Trek, though early DS9 was OK and some Next Generation wasn't too noxious. I used to watch Hercules and Xena when they were on weekend afternoons (it was convenient when doing the laundry!). I don't watch much TV, actually. But I buy DVDs like there's no tomorrow. Favorites include Ultraviolet and Stargate, and anything to do with paleontology, archaeology, or ancient civilizations, especially from the Discovery Channel, PBS, or the History Channel. I wrote up my experiences from the Comicon as an article, including how much SG-1 personally meant to me at the time. It was posted on my site at http://www.shakal.org/trips/comicon2001.html and was published as part of a zine as well. SG-1 still means a lot to me (three of my holiday presents to myself were books on ancient civilizations and one was a book about SG-1) though it really stinks that I can't yet buy seasons 2 or beyond on US DVDs. Thanks for this site. May TPTB actually notice it! -- AdeleAdele Shakal <adele@shakal.org>
Los Angeles, CA USA - Friday, December 28, 2001, 9:04 PM
As a character, I actually think 7 of 9 was kind of cool. But her costume was UNBELIEVABLY stupid! I kept waiting for her to be put into a "therapeutic" g-string and pasties!
Xochiquetzl
Etlanna, Jawjah USA - Thursday, December 27, 2001, 10:45 PM
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